Geertjan, This is a sound plan.
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 11:22 PM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > It really is impossible for us to follow all the (in many cases > contradictory) advice we have been given re the initial contributors list. > > Here's what I propose: > > 1. We make the initial contributors list as detailed as we can, i.e., I > have already started doing this, grouping individual contributors in > specific categories and also indicating which ones have contributed in the > past, in most cases the recent past, i.e., these are the ones with most > direct skills who are likely to begin contributing as soon as possible. > Yes, most of these are from Oracle, which makes sense since we're moving to > Apache precisely in order to open up the governance model so that more can > participate. > 2. When in doubt, we will follow the advice of our mentors over the advice > of those who are not our mentors. > 3. We will show in the initial contributors list what each of the initial > contributors is planning to contribute, as concretely as possible, to show > that we have a list of contributors who really want to and are planning to > contribute as soon as they're able to do so. > 4. I don't believe anyone will fork NetBeans for not being on the initial > contributors list nor do I believe that anyone will want to be on the > initial contributors list as some kind of desire for status -- everyone on > the list is known in one way or another in the community or has worked on > NetBeans for years from within Oracle. These are all people who are > committed to NetBeans and to its future in Apache. > 5. At the end of incubation, we will go through the list very thoroughly. > Anyone who has not contributed will be contacted to confirm that they'd > like to be removed from the list before we become a TPL. I see no problems > in that regard, I'm sure people who don't end up committing will have no > problem being removed from the list at that stage and being voted in again > if/when they change their mind later. > This is typically how our meritocracy works. In addition, when you draft your TLP resolution, you'll have a chance to list out the committers and PMC members. This will be reviewed by the community so everyone will have a chance to speak up. > > Hope the above works for everyone and thanks everyone for all the energy > everyone is putting into this process. > > Thanks, > > Geertjan > > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:47 AM, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> > wrote: > > > toki wrote on 9/24/16 8:04 PM: > > > On 22/09/2016 05:18, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > >> had a non-trivial amount of commits to then Sun NetBeans between > > 2002-2008. He then drifted away from the > > >> project but would be interested, potentially, re-engaging. > > > > > > Is it possible to create a "master list' of everybody who has > > > contributed, when they contributed, and roughly how much they > > contributed? > > > > > > If so, then: > > > * send everybody on that list an ICLA to fill out and return; > > > * Include that list as an appendix to the Incubation Paperwork. Call it > > > _Individuals who, on request will be considered to be part of the > > > Initial Committer List_, once the appropriate paperwork has been signed > > > and submitted; > > > * The _Initial Committer List_ consists of people who have signed and > > > submitted the appropriate paperwork, and requested to be on the list; > > > > My advice is to leave the initial committer list as-is, and then wait to > > see who actually shows up to do work on the project during the > > incubation process. > > > > Part of what the IPMC looks for during incubation is can the podling > > community self-govern, a large part of which is voting in new committers > > in an appropriate fashion. > > > > Separately, when a podling is ready to graduate, and the IPMC votes to > > recommend graduation to the board, the actual committer and PMC lists > > for the top level project sometimes change versus the whole committer > > list during incubation. People who never show up to actually work on > > the podling probably should not be left on the committer list for the > > future top level project. > > > > - Shane > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > >
