Hi Wade, On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 11:38 PM, Wade Chandler <cons...@wadechandler.com> wrote: > ..I can say as a long time contributor who is not on the initial list, I > understand, think it is fine, and agree that being added once we get into > the actual incubation phase makes sense...
Thanks! As someone who has mentored several projects here in the last ten years or so I think although people sometimes see a lot of value in being on the initial committers list they should not, IMO. What very often happens during incubation is some people who were on this list almost never contribute to the project, and other expected or unexpected people show up, do great things and get elected as a result. Also, as mentor I will recommend reviewing the list of committers and PMC members shortly before graduation, to give the opportunity to people who didn't actually become active to gracefully retire - if the project governance works it's easy to come back later by becoming active, and the project benefits from having a roster that reflects the reality of active contributors. So in summary people shouldn't put too much value on the initial list of committers, it's just that - an initial list, a kind of draft that will evolve during incubation, and probably evolve a lot for a large project such as NetBeans. > ...I am able to contribute as much as I can at this stage anyways... Indeed, and that stays true once incubation starts. Even though an Apache PMC ultimately makes all the project decisions, they are expected to listen to their community. The "community" section at https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html expresses that. > ...getting into building a thorough list before hand will > certainly take time away from higher priority items at this stage... Yes, that's why the NetBeans mentors pushed to avoid adding people to the list of initial committers before the incubation vote starts, as for a popular project that's a lot of work with no real value as mentioned above. Thanks for your understanding and for your contributions so far! -Bertrand, with my NetBeans mentor hat on --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
