If looking for mentors, I would be glad to jump in and I have no real
organizational affiliation.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Josh Elser <els...@apache.org> wrote:

> Completely understand where you're coming from, Henry, and thanks for
> keeping us honest.
>
> I'll echo Joe's sentiment that I volunteered to mentor, not due to any
> affiliation or interest at my dayjob, but instead my social network
> connecting me with the project and a personal desire to help make this a
> success. My affiliation is purely something following me around.
>
> At the risk of putting words into Ellison Anne's mouth: I think we would
> be happy to receive mentors from other affiliations. I feel pretty safe
> saying that 3 mentors from Hortonworks was completely circumstantial, but
> it is by no means meant to be interpreted as no other mentors are desired.
> If anyone else is interested in volunteering, that would be great.
>
>
> Henry Saputra wrote:
>
>> HI Joe,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>> Technically, that is what ALL mentors suppose to do. Wear different hats
>> when representing as Apache member.
>>
>> But we all know that is not how it happens in reality. Most people
>> nowadays
>> get paid to do open source by day employer so like it or not some
>> influence
>> of the employer will take effect.
>>
>> I would encourage do bit more homework in terms finding mentors. Others
>> new
>> podlings such as Eagle, CarbonData, and Kudu had done extra effort to find
>> mentors from different orgs.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> - Henry
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Joe Witt<joe.w...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>> Henry
>>>
>>> I totally understand the spirit of your statement but I want to be
>>> clear in speaking for my own involvement here.  I am participating in
>>> this proposal and proposed podling as an apache member.  That I happen
>>> to work for hortonworks has absolutely nothing to do with it and
>>> frankly I wish it was not called out in this document.  The template
>>> even calls this out as a controversial item.
>>>
>>> I believe I am the only one on the initial committers list that is
>>> affiliated with hortonworks for what it is worth.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Henry Saputra<henry.sapu...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One immediate concern is all mentors coming from Hortonworks.
>>>>
>>>> I would strongly suggest to find more balance mentors.
>>>>
>>>> I know we had this discussion about "fake" diversity stuff, but I
>>>>
>>> strongly
>>>
>>>> advise to do more effort to get mentors from different background than
>>>>
>>> one
>>>
>>>> company.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Henry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, June 7, 2016, Ellison Anne Williams<
>>>>
>>> eawilliamsp...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We would like to discuss the proposal of a new project to the incubator
>>>>>
>>>> -
>>>
>>>> Pirk.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pirk is a framework for scalable Private Information Retrieval (PIR).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The proposal is contained below and can also be found on the wiki at
>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PirkProposal
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to the discussion -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ellison Anne
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ____________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> = Pirk Proposal =
>>>>>
>>>>> == Abstract ==
>>>>> Pirk is a framework for scalable Private Information Retrieval (PIR).
>>>>>
>>>>> == Proposal ==
>>>>>
>>>>> Pirk is a software framework for scalable Private Information Retrieval
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>
>>>> is meant to provide a landing place for robust, scalable, and practical
>>>>> implementations of PIR algorithms. The initial scalable PIR algorithms
>>>>>
>>>> of
>>>
>>>> Pirk were developed at the National Security Agency.
>>>>>
>>>>> == Background ==
>>>>>
>>>>> Private Information Retrieval (PIR) is an area of computer science and
>>>>> mathematics that enables a user/entity to privately and securely obtain
>>>>> information from a dataset, to which they have been granted access,
>>>>>
>>>> without
>>>
>>>> revealing, to the dataset owner or to an observer, any information
>>>>> regarding the questions asked or the results obtained. Employing
>>>>> homomorphic encryption techniques, PIR enables datasets to remain
>>>>>
>>>> resident
>>>
>>>> in their native locations while giving the ability to query the datasets
>>>>> with sensitive terms.
>>>>>
>>>>> == Rationale ==
>>>>>
>>>>> Although PIR has been in existence for over twenty years, it has
>>>>> largely
>>>>> remained an academic discipline with very little robust or scalable
>>>>> implementation. Pirk not only provides implementations of novel
>>>>> scalable
>>>>> PIR algorithms, but it provides a framework into which robust,
>>>>> scalable,
>>>>> and practical PIR may be developed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pirk fits well within the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) family as it
>>>>> depends on numerous ASF projects and integrates with several others
>>>>>
>>>> such as
>>>
>>>> Hadoop and Spark. We also anticipate developing extensions/adaptors for
>>>>> several other ASF projects such as Kafka, Storm, HBase, and Accumulo in
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>
>>>> near future.
>>>>>
>>>>> == Initial Goals ==
>>>>>
>>>>>   * Ensure all dependencies are compliant with Apache License version
>>>>> 2.0
>>>>> and that all code and documentation artifacts have the correct Apache
>>>>> licensing markings and notice.
>>>>>
>>>>>   * Establish a formal release process and schedule, allowing for
>>>>>
>>>> dependable
>>>
>>>> release cycles in a manner consistent with the Apache development
>>>>>
>>>> process.
>>>
>>>>   * Establish a process which allows different release cycles for the
>>>>>
>>>> core
>>>
>>>> framework, extensions/adaptors, and additional algorithms.
>>>>>
>>>>>   * Grow the community to establish diversity of background and
>>>>>
>>>> expertise.
>>>
>>>> == Current Status ==
>>>>>
>>>>> === Meritocracy ===
>>>>>
>>>>> We will actively seek help and encourage promotion of influence in the
>>>>> project through meritocracy. We will discuss the requirements in an
>>>>> open
>>>>> forum. We will encourage and monitor community participation so that
>>>>> privileges can be extended to those that contribute.
>>>>>
>>>>> === Community ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Pirk currently has a community of developers within the U.S.
>>>>>
>>>> government. In
>>>
>>>> open sourcing Pirk we plan to grow the community to a broader base of
>>>>> industries and will work to align the interaction of our existing
>>>>> community.
>>>>>
>>>>> === Core Developers ===
>>>>>
>>>>> The initial core developers are employed by the US Government. We will
>>>>>
>>>> work
>>>
>>>> to grow the community among a more diverse set of developers and
>>>>> industries.
>>>>>
>>>>> === Alignment ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Pirk was developed with an open source philosophy in mind and the
>>>>> Apache
>>>>> way is consistent with the approach we have taken to date. Further,
>>>>> Pirk
>>>>> depends on numerous ASF libraries and projects including Hadoop, Spark,
>>>>> Commons, and Maven. We also anticipate extensions and dependencies with
>>>>> several more ASF projects, including Accumulo, Avro, HBase, Storm,
>>>>>
>>>> Kafka,
>>>
>>>> and others. This existing alignment with Apache and the desired
>>>>>
>>>> community
>>>
>>>> makes the Apache Incubator a good fit for Pirk.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> == Known Risks ==
>>>>>
>>>>> === Orphaned Products ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Risk of orphaning is limited though it is important to grow the
>>>>>
>>>> community.
>>>
>>>> The project user and developer base is growing and there is already
>>>>> operational use of Pirk.
>>>>>
>>>>> === Inexperience with Open Source ===
>>>>>
>>>>> The initial committers to Pirk have limited experience with true open
>>>>> source software development. However, despite the project origins being
>>>>> from closed source development we have modeled our behavior and
>>>>>
>>>> community
>>>
>>>> development on The Apache Way to the greatest extent possible. We are
>>>>> committed to the ideals of open source software and will eagerly seek
>>>>>
>>>> out
>>>
>>>> mentors and sponsors who can help us quickly come up to speed.
>>>>>
>>>>> === Homogenous Developers ===
>>>>>
>>>>> The initial committers of Pirk come from a limited set of entities
>>>>>
>>>> though
>>>
>>>> we are committed to recruiting and developing additional committers
>>>>>
>>>> from a
>>>
>>>> broad spectrum of industries and backgrounds.
>>>>>
>>>>> === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
>>>>>
>>>>> We expect Pirk development to continue on salaried time and through
>>>>> volunteer time. The majority of initial committers are paid by their
>>>>> employers to contribute to this project. We are committed to developing
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>
>>>> recruiting participation from developers both salaried and non-salaried.
>>>>>
>>>>> === Relationship with other Apache Projects ===
>>>>>
>>>>> As described in the alignment section, Pirk is already heavily
>>>>>
>>>> dependent on
>>>
>>>> other ASF projects and we anticipate further dependence and integration
>>>>> with new and emerging projects in the Apache family.
>>>>>
>>>>> === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
>>>>>
>>>>> We respect the Apache brand and desire to adopt its community building
>>>>> principles. Our desire is to build and foster an open source community
>>>>> around scalable, robust PIR  which aligns with the Apache tenets.
>>>>>
>>>> Further,
>>>
>>>> Apache is a natural home for Pirk given our existing dependencies and
>>>>> alignment with ASF projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> === Documentation ===
>>>>>
>>>>> At this time there is no Pirk documentation on the web. However, we
>>>>> have
>>>>> documentation included within the application that details usage. Using
>>>>> incubator infrastructure we will be rapidly expanding the available
>>>>> documentation to cover things like installation, developer guide,
>>>>> frequently asked questions, best practices, and more.
>>>>>
>>>>> == Initial Source ==
>>>>>
>>>>> The core codebase is written in Java and includes detailed Javadocs and
>>>>> feature documentation.
>>>>>
>>>>> == Source and Intellectual Property Submission ==
>>>>>
>>>>> The Pirk code and documentation materials will be submitted by the
>>>>>
>>>> National
>>>
>>>> Security Agency. Pirk has been developed by government employees.
>>>>>
>>>> Material
>>>
>>>> developed by the government employees is in the public domain and no
>>>>>
>>>> U.S.
>>>
>>>> copyright exists in works of the federal government. NSA has submitted
>>>>> Corporate Contributor License Agreement to the Apache Software
>>>>>
>>>> Foundation;
>>>
>>>> the Software Grant Agreement is forth coming.
>>>>>
>>>>> == External Dependencies ==
>>>>>
>>>>> We believe all current dependencies are compatible with the ASF
>>>>>
>>>> guidelines.
>>>
>>>> Our dependency licenses come from the Apache v 2.0 and Eclipse Public
>>>>>
>>>> v1.
>>>
>>>> == Cryptography ==
>>>>>
>>>>> Consistent with http://www.apache.org/licenses/exports/ we believe
>>>>>
>>>> Pirk is
>>>
>>>> classified as ECCN 5D002. In the event that it becomes necessary we will
>>>>> engage with appropriate Apache members to ensure we file any necessary
>>>>> paperwork or clarified any cryptographic export license concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> == Required Resources ==
>>>>>
>>>>> === Mailing Lists ===
>>>>>
>>>>>   * d...@pirk.incubator.apache.org<javascript:;>
>>>>>   * priv...@pirk.incubator.apache.org<javascript:;>
>>>>>   * comm...@pirk.incubator.apache.org<javascript:;>
>>>>>
>>>>> === Source Control ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Pirk requests use of Git for source control (git://
>>>>>
>>>> git.apache.org/pirk.git
>>>
>>>> ).
>>>>> We request a writeable Git repo for Pirk with mirroring to be setup to
>>>>> Github through INFRA.
>>>>>
>>>>> === Issue Tracking ===
>>>>>
>>>>> JIRA Pirk (PIRK)
>>>>>
>>>>> === Initial Committers ===
>>>>>
>>>>>   * Tracy Brown<tbrownpirk at gmail dot com>, CLA submitted
>>>>>   * Christopher Harris<Chris.Harris010 at gmail dot com>, CLA submitted
>>>>>   * Walter Ray-Dulaney<raydulany at gmail dot com>, CLA submitted
>>>>>   * Jacob Wilder<jacobwilder.opensource  at gmail dot com>, CLA
>>>>>
>>>> submitted
>>>
>>>>   * Ellison Anne Williams<eawilliamsPirk at gmail dot com>, CLA
>>>>>
>>>> confirmed
>>>
>>>>   * Joe Witt (Hortonworks)<joewitt at apache dot org>, CLA confirmed
>>>>>
>>>>> == Sponsors ==
>>>>>
>>>>> === Champion ===
>>>>>
>>>>>   * Billie Rinaldi (Hortonworks)<billie at apache dot org>, IPMC Member
>>>>>
>>>>> === Nominated Mentors ===
>>>>>
>>>>>   * Billie Rinaldi (Hortonworks)<billie at apache dot org>, IPMC Member
>>>>>   * Joe Witt (Hortonworks)<joewitt at apache dot org>, IPMC Member
>>>>>   * Josh Elser (Hortonworks)<elserj at apache dot org>, IPMC Member
>>>>>
>>>>> === Sponsoring Entity ===
>>>>>
>>>>> We request the Apache Incubator to sponsor this project.
>>>>>
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