IMO as long as that second email is private, then we could probably drop the 
requirement for the first notification.


-Taylor

> On Jun 5, 2016, at 9:29 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 8:56 PM P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:ptgo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I don't know the full history behind that requirement, but it would seem
>> to me the essence is to make sure any IPMC members have a chance to object
>> in private before anything hits a public list (I.e. general@).
>> 
> 
> That should be the case for the second email.  We rely on the PPMC to do
> the right thing and vote as they see fit.  The IPMC should object if need
> be after the vote but before the 72 hour window expires.  This is
> consistent with how the board operates.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> 
>> -Taylor
>> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2016, at 7:02 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> I thought we discussed this in the past, maybe I missed some part of the
>>> discussion.  I thought that this section was to be removed from the
>> wording:
>>> 
>>> The [VOTE] message should be forwarded to the IPMC (
>>> priv...@incubator.apache.org) to notify them that the vote is underway.
>> Do
>>> not CC or BCC the IPMC on this thread. Instead, forward the initial VOTE
>>> email.
>>> 
>>> So I'm wondering, is it still necessary to send the initial thread over?
>>> This is above and beyond the board's requirements.
>>> 
>>> John
>> 
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