On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 07:43 +0000, Brian Spector wrote: > Hi All, > > thanks for everyone's feedback and Sterling thank you for graciously coming > on board as an additional mentor. > > I'd like to propose that the proposed Apache OpenMiracl incubation project > be renamed to Apache Milagro.
Thanks. That looks to me like a solution to the concerns expressed in this thread. This proposal still needs more mentors. Anyone here interested in advancing the project? FWIW, I blogged a couple of days ago about the background to my own involvement in this: https://bahumbug.wordpress.com/2015/11/22/identity-and-trust/ -- Nick Kew > > A Milagro is a charm that is used to bring about a miracle, so the subtext > hopefully will carry the day. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milagro_(votive) > > Alex, thanks for getting the ball rolling on this line of thinking. > > We've filed on the trademarks for these which will assign in totality to > the Apache Foundation. The EU marks should be cleared shortly and from > which can be used to get worldwide marks. > > If anyone has any objection or comments, could you please let us know? > > Thanks > Brian > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Patrick Hilt <patrick.h...@miracl.com> > wrote: > > > Hi Greg, > > thanks for the input. We definitely appreciate it. We currently discussing > > that internally and it’s great to hear from someone who has been through > > this. The approach you took with HAWQ is quite interesting. > > > > Thanks again, > > Patrick > > > > Patrick Hilt > > Chief Technology Officer > > MIRACL > > > > > On Nov 19, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Gregory Chase <gch...@pivotal.io> wrote: > > > > > > Having been through this twice now with "Pivotal GemFire" begatting > > "Apache > > > Geode" and "Pivotal HAWQ" becoming "Apache HAWQ".... > > > > > > If the current owner intends to allow infringement on the MIRACL brand > > as a > > > policy by any user of Apache Miracl, then that should be ok. In effect > > > they will be putting "MIRACL" into the public domain. > > > > > > If the owner intends to license "MIRACL" for Apache's use only - how does > > > this extend to Apache's users? > > > > > > For my company, we decided it was better to ensure the commercial > > > distribution and the Apache projects did not infringe on each others > > > brands. And we have done both approaches: suggest a new brand for > > Apache, > > > and give an existing brand to Apache and rebrand the commercial > > > distribution. > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Nick Kew <n...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > >> On Wed, 2015-11-18 at 08:48 +0900, Brian Spector wrote: > > >>> Hi Alex, thank you for the suggestion, but from our point of view, as I > > >>> outlined below, we would disadvantage the project as a whole by not > > >> having > > >>> the MIRACL name in it. > > >>> > > >>> At the same time, I completely understand the concern that a company > > who > > >>> creates a product based on OpenMiracl might feel themselves > > disadvantaged > > >>> by having to state an attribution 'based on Apache OpenMiracl' while > > >>> MIRACL, the company, sells a product called Datacenter Cryptosystem > > will > > >>> also say 'based on Apache OpenMiracl'. We get that. > > >> > > >> If folks are uneasy about OpenMiracl, how far does that extend? > > >> Would (for example) a name taking the "Mira" stem be sufficiently > > >> distinct for those expressing concerns here? For example, > > >> Mirabile (Latin pronunciation) kind-of offers an element of > > >> historic continuity through the linguistic association with > > >> the miracle. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Nick Kew > > >> > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Greg Chase > > > > > > Director of Big Data Communities > > > http://www.pivotal.io/big-data > > > > > > Pivotal Software > > > http://www.pivotal.io/ > > > > > > 650-215-0477 > > > @GregChase > > > Blog: http://geekmarketing.biz/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
