On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:05 AM, P. Taylor Goetz <ptgo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > On Nov 4, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net> wrote: > > > > * I would invite folks with access to go to Sentry's private list and > > look over discussions about adding new contributors, and discussions > > about the project in general. > > > > > > I took a look. > > > > From a community growth perspective, I see them adding new committers, > > which is a good thing. What I don’t see is any discussion at all about > > adding PPMC members, nor any discussion about why they chose to go the > > Committer != PPMC route. > > > > In a thread related to the first new committer being added [1], it is > > pointed out that the podling website stated that Sentry was Committer == > > PMC, but that the new member vote was only for Committer. At that point > it > > looks like the website was updated to reflect Committer != PMC. From that > > point on, all new member votes were for Committer only, and there were no > > discussions regarding adding new PMC members or promoting committers to > the > > PMC role. > > > > What I find slightly disconcerting is that there doesn’t seem to be any > > consideration or discussion around growing the PPMC and why that’s > > important. Sure they have 20-odd PPMC members from the initial committers > > list, so it would take a pretty large exodus to render the project unable > > to function, but I don’t see anything to indicate that they understand > the > > function and importance of growing the PPMC. > Background: I am a Sentry community member. I would have to disagree with this. We have identified lack of new PPMC members as an issue and called out in our board reports. We are also encouraging non-PPMC members to get involved in ways they can become PPMC members - for example, we have had non-PPMC members run two of the last Sentry releases. As mentioned earlier, it's not like there is no progress here, we have people who are very close (and I agree that we can do a better job discussing this on or private@ list). We are also encouraging others in the community to step up, giving them opportunities, and really striving to build a community around the project. > > > > > Anyone from the community that can pitch in with more details? I realize > the firehose that is the IPMC can be overwhelming, and often intimidating, > but you should feel free to ensure the record is accurately reflected. :-) > > Patrick > > > > If I’ve misinterpreted anything, please feel free to correct me. > > > > -Taylor > > > > [1] > > > https://mail-search.apache.org/members/private-arch/sentry-private/201402.mbox/%3cCAHUddLNXceMb0xnk=1GEb6tVmCshYQMFe=zcpplgfcwgg+f...@mail.gmail.com%3e > > >
