For incubator projects, I strongly suggest renames unless there is a
compelling counter argument.

I think that many others would make similar suggestions, but doubt that
there is explicit policy on this.


On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>
wrote:

> Thank you all for the feedback. This is super helpful!
>
> One question that I still have is this: do we have a bias
> for suggesting package rename or any package name
> can remain in place?
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Andy Seaborne <a...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Jena graduated 2012 with old namespaces under com.hp.hpl.jena, and some
> > under org.openjena, with an intention to change at the first major
> release
> > update.  As new packages came along, they went into org.apache.jena but
> the
> > user facing packages remained where they were.
> >
> > We released Jena 3.0.0 last month, so 3 years. That major release was
> > coupled to another incompatible change (RDF 1.1 semantics) so 3.x
> > wasn't just to do the packages, package renaming waited until a
> convenient
> > point.
> >
> > Our users have data with (RDF) namespaces under old names - we are not
> > planning on changing that at all.  (A general issue for all linked data.)
> >
> > I don't see it as an issue for graduation if the project has considered
> the
> > matter.
> >
> >         Andy
> >
> >
> > On 07/08/15 23:16, Matthew Hayes wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Roman Shaposhnik suggested I open a discussion on the following topic:
> >>
> >> For Apache DataFu, all of the Java classes are declared in a datafu.*
> >> namespace.  This has been the naming convention since the DataFu project
> >> started in 2010.  Since DataFu became part of the Apache incubation
> >> process, the topic has come up of moving all of the classes into a
> >> org.apache.datafu.* namespace.  This was first discussed in January 2014
> >> (see DATAFU-7) and most recently again in the past couple weeks.  The
> >> consensus at the time last year was that it would be a huge pain for
> users
> >> and not worth the cost.  It would break any script out there currently
> >> using DataFu.  Also Jakob Homan and Russell Journey pointed out that
> this
> >> is just a convention and not all Apache projects follow it.  Since we
> >> would
> >> like DataFu to graduate sometime soon it would be good to clarify what
> the
> >> requirements are on package naming conventions before we do a release.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Matt
> >>
> >
> >
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