+1 -----Original Message----- From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com] Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 09:37 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Reform of Incubator {was; [DISCUSSION] Graduate Ignite from the Apache Incubator)
[ ... ] It's not the central Incubator folks like our regular release reviewers and report contributors who invent these extra criteria -- it's individual Mentors out on the podling lists. Inaccuracy and overreach on general@incubator is self-correcting, precisely because this is where everyone comes together. When inaccuracy and overreach out on individual podling dev lists, whether that gets corrected depends on whether the podling is fortunate enough to have a well-rounded collection of active Mentors. [ ... ] The objective of establishing clear policy documentation is certainly not going to be made any easier by atomizing the Incubator. Instead, Mentors who have strong opinions and strong personalities will entrench provincial points of view in the podlings they oversee. When we finally come together, it will be that much more painful to establish consensus, whether that is to discuss policy on general@incubator or legal-discuss@apache, or when the Board comes into conflict with a TLP that received bad advice as a podling. As someone who has worked hard building consensus for policy documentation at Apache, and who has seen that hard work pay off when Incubator threads which would have been contended several years ago are now settled quickly, I certainly agree that documenting clear objective criteria is valuable. But nothing about the present makeup of the Incubator gets in the way of pursuing that objective -- it's the opposite. Its because we resolve our differences in small amounts here that we do not end up as irreconcilable factions later. Marvin Humphrey --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
