On 24.07.2015 01:25, Valentin Kulichenko wrote:
> I do agree that our Jira handling could be better and believe that
> community has already responded to these discussions and addressed some of
> the raised concerns. The truth is that so far many Jira discussions have
> happened on the dev list, including community members sending notifications
> about starting and ending work on Jiras and discussing Jira issues on the
> dev list as well. This was a preferred way selected by the community that
> we followed. I do agree that Jiras should be updated better and will
> encourage everyone to do so going forward.


As a small reminder, evidently to IPMC members as well as podling
committers: Jira is not the official archive of "what happened" on the
project. Only the dev@ list is. There is no requirement for any project
to use the ASF Jira instance; there's not even a requirement to use an
issue tracker. Suddenly making the contents of tickets in Jira an issue
for graduation is just a bit out of order IMNSHO.

The important question is whether the development process is open, not
whether some entries in Jira appear to have adequate comments.

-- Brane


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