Hi -

We could better spend our energy looking at podlings with Mentor problems and 
deciding which of three possible states fits the podling.

- "Failed" - no community is trully involved and there is nothing an active 
mentor could do. Let's just admit it and retire the podling.

- "Needs Help" - a mentor would really help. They need it and want it. We try 
to find one.

- "Going Fine" - could be a TLP. We help them graduate.

I think the IPMC is doing almost all of the above better. Everything except for 
"Failed". I think that now we are blaming the mentor. Let's get over it. Not 
every podling will work.

Thanks.

Regards,
Dave

On Jan 8, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote:

> 
>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
>> <ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not seeing how this proposal fixes the problem either. However, I do 
>> like that this proposal doesn't move responsibility and I like that it adds 
>> some teeth to the IPMC (e.g. removal of inactive mentors and pausing of 
>> podlings with insufficient mentors - though I still dispute ticking a box is 
>> hardly an indication of an active mentor)
> 
> The thinking is that a mentor is at least honest; a reasonable assumption.  
> If they claim to have reviewed a release or board report then they can be 
> trusted to have done so to the best of their abilities.
> 
> The two mentor minimum rule addresses the possible unevenness in ernest 
> mentors’ abilities.
> 
> There is no silver bullet but this proposal covers a lot of the perennial 
> problems that the Incubator seems run into without changing responsibilities; 
> a nice incremental step.  It also simplifies the roles that podlings need to 
> grok.  Finally, it adds more impetus for PPMCs to take ownership in their 
> incubation.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Alan
> 


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