> On Jan 7, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015, at 06:46 PM, jan i wrote: >> On 7 January 2015 at 19:32, Alan D. Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>> On Jan 7, 2015, at 10:13 AM, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 07.01.2015 18:42, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: >>>>> I’ve written up a more comprehensive proposal that would not only hold >>> mentors accountable but also give them a fair bit of autonomous authority >>> during releases. >>>>> >>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MentorRebootProposal < >>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MentorRebootProposal> >>>>> >> >> "Being put on hold means that no committers can be added, no PPMC members >> can be added, and no releases can be performed" >> This would be a no go for me. If a podling has lost a mentor, but are >> actively seeking a new mentor, the IPMC must step in to accept a new >> committer, PPMC member or release. The IPMC has accepted the podling, so >> it >> is very unfair, to punish a podling, that does a active job to replace a >> mentor. > > The IPMC *cannot* replace a mentor. We have no power to make someone > take on that role. Alan, please add a section to your doc about the fact > that podlings retain responsibility for engaging with their mentors, and > for recruiting replacements should a mentor quit or go AWOL.
A very good idea. Though I will quickly add that I think that Jan meant to say “it is unfair to make the podling recruit a new mentor to replace the removed mentor”. > It is great to clarify the responsibilities of mentors, but please let's > set the expectations and responsibilities of podling members, otherwise > we keep this idea that the Incubator PMC is a body that has power to do > things (like make someone step up as a mentor for a project), which it > doesn't. Yes, definitely. This is the document that I alluded to in the proposal, "mentors must acknowledge that they will perform their duties as out lined in a clearly defined document". I wanted to garner consensus on the broad strokes before filling it in, but since the initial reaction seems to generally favorable, I should probably create that now. Regards, Alan
