On 5 January 2015 at 14:16, Alan D. Cabrera <l...@toolazydogs.com> wrote:
> > > On Jan 5, 2015, at 4:20 AM, Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > For your reading and wrangling pleasure, I offer: > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorV2. > > > > The goal of this exercise is to turn the idea of the pTLP into a > > practical alternative. By 'practical', I mean: 'based on the > > constraints as I see them'; the board and comdev are not going to find > > a little bottle labelled 'drink this' and swig away at new > > responsibilities. > > > > I'm not offering this to advocate for it, or against it. My purpose is > > more to argue that it would be a ton of work. 'Mentors in the Project' > > in the existing, messy, noisy, IPMC would be a lot less work and has > > the potential to deliver comparable results on the important issues. > > > > But if people want to take this up, or if someone wants to campaign > > for chair using this as a platform, that would be more productive that > > discussing the pTLP alternative in the abstract. > > > IMO, the “noise” comes from the IPMC discussing new processes, roles, > etc., when mentors fail to do their jobs. > > This proposal is essentially a re-boot with the hopes that bad mentors > don’t make it into the new world order. > > What we really need is less rules, less trial bureaucracy mechanisms, less > roles, and simple mechanisms to hold mentors accountable to the task that > they signed up to perform. > +1, and dont forget, while keeping the good parts of incubator....especially the work around "learning the apache way". rgds jan i > > > Regards, > Alan > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
