On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 7:26 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Absolutely not just noise. Take the extra 2 seconds to add your sign off. > > > > I disagree. Checking a check box is much different than adding meaningful > comments, either on mailing lists or on the report itself. > > For example, which gives you better info that I feel confident in Tamaya's > board report. > > My check here: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2014 > > or my comments in this thread: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-tamaya-dev/201411.mbox/%3CCAOqetn8wkYuDNkTwkpKKOGzu%3Ds_cf4VMT5A9_e8mdpM6mOh-6Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > All the check does (from my point of view) is give someone a brief summary > that things are looking good. The check mark doesn't imply any due > diligence on the mentor's part. It's very misleading to see it that way. > Take a look for example at the log4cxx2 podling's report. It has mentor > sign off, but the contents are barely present. The only reason it has > mentor sign off is because the mentor wrote the report, after I (as the > shepherd) reminded the podling. > John, Are you seriously suggesting that the board should be delving into all the incubator mailing lists to determine whether you are paying attention to your mentoree groups? The check-box is the concise way that you indicate that the activity on the mailing lists is happening. There is a known defect with checkboxes in that they can be ticked without mentoring activity behind them, but that doesn't mean that we should introduce a new failure mechanism where there is good activity but no tick box. Yes, the tick box is supposed to be an echo. It is a redundant summarization. And it is very helpful because all the tick boxes are in one place for easier review.
