On Nov 27, 2013, at 2:41 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Marvin Humphrey <mar...@rectangular.com> > wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> I am not sure that this is a step in the correct direction. >> >> Dave, I'm sure you realize that your opposition is deeply disapointing to a >> number of us, when we seem so close. >> >> I will work with you to see if we can build what you are currently calling >> the "Incubator Committer" solution into something which can achieve >> consensus. It is not necessarily going to be easy to get that proposal as >> close as this one has come, but let's try. > > It's been 5 days since we last hear from Dave. It's possible that the > Thanksgiving holiday is a busy time, but we need to move forward. > > We're working to modify the proposal for PPMC binding votes to address > concerns about providing adequate oversight. In the absence of a viable > competing proposal, I expect to initiate a PROPOSAL followed by a VOTE once > the revised version is sufficiently mature -- possibly in a week or so.
I am here now after the holiday and time away from most email. I have a suggestion - inline. On Nov 25, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Marvin Humphrey <mar...@rectangular.com> > wrote: >> ...Ant, you proposed a minimum of one IPMC vote for each release: > ... >> How about simply changing the rules for Incubator releases so that they >> don't require at least three binding votes, but instead make it at least >> three votes only one of which must be binding... > > I would agree with that provided that we require other voters to > document what they have actually reviewed in the release, something > like: > > -PPMC members review their release and create a text file in the > incubator's svn repository, based on a template that indicates what > needs to be reviewed in a release > > -At least one Incubator PMC member reviews the release, updates the > file accordingly, and their +1 vote along with the usual PPMC vote > validates the release c/one Incubator PMC member/one podling Mentor who is an Apache Member/ > > -For the first release we require at least three IPMC members to > participate, instead of just one. > > This would provide good oversight, while helping educate the PPMC > members and keep a good record of the release requirements that other > podlings can use as examples. And make sure people's +1s are based on > something tangible and documented. I am only comfortable allowing singular IPMC votes from members of the ASF. I think the IPMC owes this much to the other members of the Foundation. Regards, Dave > > Marvin Humphrey > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
