On 17/11/13 11:17, Upayavira wrote:


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013, at 04:59 AM, Alex Harui wrote:


On 11/16/13 8:47 AM, "Upayavira" <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:




Alex,

I'm not sure I see the difference between a release auditor and an IPMC
member. If someone is sufficiently clued up to audit a release, then
they're surely ready to join the Incubator PMC. Am I missing something?
To me, there is more responsibility in being on the IPMC, like reviewing
proposals for new podlings and voting on their graduation and becoming a
mentor.  Personally, that's why I don't want to be on the IPMC, but I
might be willing to help IP audit a podling's release.  Just like some
projects don't have all committers on the PMC, a Release Auditor is just
someone who can do that specific task, and there is no need to vote them
in if they are already on some other TLP PMC because any member of a TLP
PMC supposedly knows how to do release auditing.


My interest is in a lesser level of involvement, where someone has shown
merit within their own PPMC and can get a binding vote there, but
no-where else. That feels to me like a very useful intermediate step to
have.
I agree, except for the no-where else part.  If you know how to check a
RAT report and have an idea of what should be in the NOTICE files, you
should be able to help out any other podling by reviewing their release
and casting a binding vote so they can learn how to do that.  I'd say
that
3 IPMC members must vote to give a person Release Auditor status if they
are not already on a TLP PMC.  Consider this:  I am an the Flex PMC but
not the IPMC, but if I join the PPMC of some new podling, why shouldn't I
be able to cast a binding vote for that podling's releases?

With a two tier model - with PPMC membership granting voting rights on
podling releases, then a podling would start with just mentors on its
PPMC. If you clearly knew what you were doing, you'd get voted onto the
PPMC pretty quickly, and thus you'd be able to vote on your releases.

I am concerned that it would be dis-empowering to the incoming community if at least the active and major developers of the podling were not on the PPMC at the start.

        Andy


Upayavira

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