Marvin, you have my wholehearted agreement.

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On Sun, Nov 17, 2013, at 07:18 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
> 
> > 1) I think there is more to PPMC membership than just voting on releases.
> 
> I'm sure that everyone agrees on this point 100%.  Everything that Benson
> had
> to say a couple messages back about PMC membership[1] also applies to
> PPMC
> membership.
> 
> Nevertheless, while podlings are in the Incubator, their most pressing
> needs
> are for contributions in the areas of community development and IP
> stewardship.  It is appropriate to emphasize those criteria even while
> voting
> in new PPMC members for a variety of reasons.
> 
> > 2) I thought the main thrust of this thread is about what to do when
> >    mentors get too busy.
> 
> I don't see it that way.  The point is this:
> 
>     The Incubator has a fundamental structural flaw: it lacks a mechanism
>     to
>     reward merit earned by individual podling contributors.
> 
> Because the current system for approving incubating releases relies on
> IPMC
> votes rather than podling contributor votes, it conflicts with our belief
> in
> the imperative of meritocratic self-governance.  The best solution will
> be one
> that brings us back into alignment with our principles.
> 
> IP stewardship is not something that happens only during IP clearance,
> only in
> preparation for the first incubating release, or only at punctuated
> intervals
> thereafter in preparation for subsequent releases.  It is an ongoing
> process
> which happens with _every commit_.
> 
> The Incubator's priority should be (per the title of this thread) to
> cultivate
> outstanding IP stewards to watch over projects -- commit by commit --
> both
> during incubation and after graduation, for the lifetime of the project. 
> The
> only people with the motivation to serve in that capacity are project
> contributors.
> 
> Correct the Incubator's structural flaw and you'll also solve the acute
> problem of "what to do when mentors get too busy".
> 
> Marvin Humphrey
> 
> [1] http://s.apache.org/URj
> 
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