Marvin, you have my wholehearted agreement. Upayavira
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013, at 07:18 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 7:41 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > 1) I think there is more to PPMC membership than just voting on releases. > > I'm sure that everyone agrees on this point 100%. Everything that Benson > had > to say a couple messages back about PMC membership[1] also applies to > PPMC > membership. > > Nevertheless, while podlings are in the Incubator, their most pressing > needs > are for contributions in the areas of community development and IP > stewardship. It is appropriate to emphasize those criteria even while > voting > in new PPMC members for a variety of reasons. > > > 2) I thought the main thrust of this thread is about what to do when > > mentors get too busy. > > I don't see it that way. The point is this: > > The Incubator has a fundamental structural flaw: it lacks a mechanism > to > reward merit earned by individual podling contributors. > > Because the current system for approving incubating releases relies on > IPMC > votes rather than podling contributor votes, it conflicts with our belief > in > the imperative of meritocratic self-governance. The best solution will > be one > that brings us back into alignment with our principles. > > IP stewardship is not something that happens only during IP clearance, > only in > preparation for the first incubating release, or only at punctuated > intervals > thereafter in preparation for subsequent releases. It is an ongoing > process > which happens with _every commit_. > > The Incubator's priority should be (per the title of this thread) to > cultivate > outstanding IP stewards to watch over projects -- commit by commit -- > both > during incubation and after graduation, for the lifetime of the project. > The > only people with the motivation to serve in that capacity are project > contributors. > > Correct the Incubator's structural flaw and you'll also solve the acute > problem of "what to do when mentors get too busy". > > Marvin Humphrey > > [1] http://s.apache.org/URj > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org