No worries. I got few kids so I know how it can be hard and long to find the good name and have all agree on it :-)
On 7 October 2013 22:26, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks a lot Olivier > > > On 7 Oct 2013, at 1:26, Olivier Lamy wrote: > >> Page renamed: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal >> I will wait until tomorrow if no more objections then start the vote. >> >> >> On 7 October 2013 09:59, Tammo van Lessen <tvanles...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> +1 for Sirona >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ashish <paliwalash...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> +1, sounds good >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. >>>>> Any objections? >>>>> >>>>> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its >>>>>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english >>>>>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan >>>>> >>>>> stands >>>>>> >>>>>> for. But I like its sound. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is >>>>>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona >>>>>> is >>>>> >>>>> used >>>>>> >>>>>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works). >>>>>> >>>>>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god: >>>>>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm >>>>>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so. >>>>>> >>>>>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to >>>>>> monitoring. >>>>>> There is a project management software called marlin: >>>>>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/ >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe we currently have: >>>>>> >>>>>> Apache Leitstand >>>>>> Apache Nechtan >>>>>> Apache Merlin >>>>>> Apache Sirona >>>>>> Apache Heimdall >>>>>> Apache Dagr >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due >>>> >>>> to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not >>>>> >>>>> good >>>>>>> >>>>>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra: >>>>>>>> status.apache.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, >>>> >>>> who >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he >>>> >>>> was >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-) >>>>>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall >>>> >>>> was >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> named as the "father of all humans". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger >>>>>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of >>>> >>>> our >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool >>>>>>>> happens ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old >>>>> >>>>> myths >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through >>>>> >>>>> heaven. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I >>>> >>>> imagine >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so >>>>>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache >>>>>>>>>> Buildr. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a >>>>>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided, >>>>> >>>>> we'd >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our >>>>>>>>> infrastructure. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> Daniel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tammo >>>>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So what about Baldr? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name >>>>> >>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> TLP? >>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier < >>>>> >>>>> grobme...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html< >>>>> >>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> officially. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments >>>>>>>>>>>> already. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - CoMon >>>>>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a >>>>>>>>>>>> trademarks >>>>>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Leitstand >>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any >>>> >>>> repositories >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were >>>> >>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring >>>> >>>> would >>>>> >>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things >>>> >>>> well >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Thor >>>>>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> name >>>>>>>>>>>> for their code :-( >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr >>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this >>>> >>>> more >>>>> >>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> detail. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a >>>>>>>>>>>> unique >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and >>>> >>>> closer >>>>> >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> écrit : >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache >>>> >>>> Leitstand" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1], >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name >>>>> >>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>> >>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood >>>>> >>>>> correctly. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand< >>>>> >>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand< >>>>> >>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy < >>>> >>>> ol...@apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name >>>> >>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude >>>> >>>> for >>>>> >>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanles...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility >>>> >>>> possible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> js. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about >>>> >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> want and well use ;) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer >>>> >>>> progressive >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org >>>> >>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**** >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache.org< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< >>>>> >>>>> general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **org<general-help@incubator.**apache.org< >>>>> >>>>> general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Talend - 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