Page renamed: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal I will wait until tomorrow if no more objections then start the vote.
On 7 October 2013 09:59, Tammo van Lessen <tvanles...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 for Sirona > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ashish <paliwalash...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> +1, sounds good >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > So Apache Merlin sounds good to me. >> > Any objections? >> > >> > On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its >> > > translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english >> > > wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan >> > stands >> > > for. But I like its sound. >> > > >> > > I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is >> > > "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is >> > used >> > > by companies related to healing (aka dental works). >> > > >> > > What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god: >> > > http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm >> > > of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so. >> > > >> > > A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to >> > > monitoring. >> > > There is a project management software called marlin: >> > > http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/ >> > > >> > > I believe we currently have: >> > > >> > > Apache Leitstand >> > > Apache Nechtan >> > > Apache Merlin >> > > Apache Sirona >> > > Apache Heimdall >> > > Apache Dagr >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote: >> > > >> > >> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due >> to >> > >> the >> > >> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not >> > good >> > >> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> I also see thor is being used by infra: >> > >>> status.apache.org >> > >>> >> > >>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too). >> > >>> >> > >>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, >> who >> > >>> is >> > >>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he >> was >> > >>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-) >> > >>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often. >> > >>> >> > >>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall >> was >> > >>> named as the "father of all humans". >> > >>> >> > >>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger >> > >>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of >> our >> > >>> time and the fall of the gods) starts. >> > >>> >> > >>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool >> > >>> happens ;-) >> > >>> >> > >>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old >> > myths >> > >>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through >> > heaven. >> > >>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I >> imagine >> > >>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so >> > >>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache >> > >>>>> Buildr. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a >> > >>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided, >> > we'd >> > >>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our >> > >>>> infrastructure. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> With regards, >> > >>>> Daniel. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> Tammo >> > >>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>: >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> So what about Baldr? >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name >> > for >> > >>>>>> TLP? >> > >>>>>> WDYT? >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier < >> > grobme...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document: >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html< >> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> officially. >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments >> > >>>>>>> already. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> - CoMon >> > >>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks >> > >>>>>>> problem because of similarity. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> - Leitstand >> > >>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any >> repositories >> > >>>>>>> at >> > >>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were >> you >> > >>>>>>> can >> > >>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring >> would >> > be >> > >>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things >> well >> > >>>>>>> and >> > >>>>>>> it is a unused word so far. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> - Thor >> > >>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that >> > >>>>>>> name >> > >>>>>>> for their code :-( >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr >> > >>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this >> more >> > in >> > >>>>>>> detail. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a >> > >>>>>>> unique >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb: >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and >> closer >> > to >> > >>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO. >> > >>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <j...@nanthrax.net >> > >> > a >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> écrit : >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name. >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Regards >> > >>>>>>>>> JB >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache >> Leitstand" >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> [1], >> > >>>>>>>>>> which >> > >>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name >> > when >> > >>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is >> > an >> > >>>>>>>>>> important >> > >>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood >> > correctly. >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >> > >>>>>>>>>> Tammo >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> [1] >> > >>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand< >> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand> >> > >>>>>>>>>> < >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand< >> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy < >> ol...@apache.org >> > > >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks. >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name >> for >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>> project. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular >> > >>>>>>>>>>> germanic >> > >>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude >> for >> > me >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> :-). >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Olivier >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen >> > >>>>>>>>>>> <tvanles...@gmail.com >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> : >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility >> possible >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> without >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> js. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about >> the >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> stack we >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> want and well use ;) >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer >> progressive >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> enhancement >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org >> . >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au >> > >>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > ------------------------------****----------------------------** >> > >>>>>>>>>>> --** >> > >>>>>>>>>>> --------- >> > >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**** >> > >>>>>>>>>>> apache.org< >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< >> > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> **org<general-help@incubator.**apache.org< >> > general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré >> > >>>>>>>>> jbono...@apache.org >> > >>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net >> > >>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> ------------------------------****----------------------------** >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> --**--------- >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**** >> > apache.org< >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< >> > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache. >> ** >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> **org< >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org< >> > general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> > >>>>>>> --------- >> > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> > >>>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< >> > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> > >>>>>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org< >> > general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>> Olivier Lamy >> > >>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au >> > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> > >>>>>> --------- >> > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> > >>>>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< >> > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> > >>>>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org< >> > general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >> > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> > >>>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< >> > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> > >>>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org< >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > ------------------------------**------------------------------**--------- >> > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> > >>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org< >> > general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> > >>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org< >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Olivier Lamy >> > Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au >> > http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> thanks >> ashish >> >> Blog: http://www.ashishpaliwal.com/blog >> My Photo Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/ashishpaliwal >> > > > > -- > Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de -- Olivier Lamy Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
