Hi Daniel,

On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:

I believe the change represents current IPMC consensus but it'd be nice if the change documented the rationale for the policy as well (at least
in the log message).

There is no change to the process, policy, or consensus. The only thing that is different is the emphasis on forwarding instead of cc or bcc.

The phrase "should be forwarded to the IPMC" is not ambiguous, but it's apparently easy to overlook.

Craig


Daniel
(last week I ran into a 10 years old change that didn't have any
justification anywhere)

Chip Childers wrote on Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 10:00:10 -0500:
Hi all,

After spamming the private@i.a.o list, and being asked to stop it, I'd
like to suggest the following changes to the PPMC guide:


Index: content/guides/ppmc.xml
===================================================================
--- content/guides/ppmc.xml (revision 1453351)
+++ content/guides/ppmc.xml (working copy)
@@ -168,7 +168,8 @@
[VOTE] Joe Bob as committer. The [VOTE] message should be forwarded
      to the IPMC (<a href="mailto:priv...@incubator.apache.org";>
      priv...@incubator.apache.org</a>) to notify them that the
-      vote is underway</p>
+ vote is underway. Do not BCC or CC the IPMC on the VOTE thread.
+      Instead, forward the initial VOTE email.</p>

<p>To be successful the vote requires <strong>at least three +1 votes
      from PPMC members, including at least one +1
@@ -179,7 +180,8 @@
a message to the PPMC private alias, and forward it to the IPMC,
      with the subject line of [VOTE][RESULT] Joe Bob as committer.
The message should include the usual vote tally, indicating which
-      mentor or IPMC member votes cause it to be valid.
+      mentor or IPMC member votes cause it to be valid. Do not
+      BCC or CC the IPMC on the results email.  Instead, forward it.
      </p>

      <p>
@@ -229,8 +231,9 @@
[VOTE] Joe Bob PPMC membership. The [VOTE] message should be forwarded
      to the IPMC (<a href="mailto:priv...@incubator.apache.org";>
      priv...@incubator.apache.org</a>) to notify them that the
- vote is underway. If the vote is successful, the proposer should send
-      a message to the PPMC private alias, with
+ vote is underway. Do not CC or BCC the IPMC on this thread. Instead, + forward the initial VOTE email. If the vote is successful, the proposer
+      should send a message to the PPMC private alias, with
      the subject line of [VOTE][RESULT] Joe Bob PPMC membership. The
message id of the [VOTE][RESULT] message should be preserved for the message to the Incubator PMC after Joe Bob accepts. Now, Joe Bob

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