---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Benson Margulies* Date: Monday, November 26, 2012 Subject: [VOTE] Retire Chukwa from incubation To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
For those voting -1, I'd like to see, on another thread, some discussion about just how we handle podlings where there are longstanding issues but no consensus on the PPMC. We've heading in the same direction on Photark, and some consensus about how or when to reach a respectful conclusion as a PMC that a project should be retired even if the PPMC is not of the same opinion would be useful. We cannot both say that we need projects to have active, supervising, mentors and shepherds and then not, in some fashion, act on what they tell us. ----- I believe that the discussion we should have is how can we help struggling podlings to grow their community in a sustentable way. Recently, I have seen an increase in trying to push small communities to retirement, but i'm yet to see active mentors engaging and helping and motivating the podlings PPMC to find ways to grow. Growing communities when a project is backed by corporations that sponsor engineers to devote their full time volunteering at the project is much easier compared to those other projects that are developed by a small group of people, that devote their own free time and are passionate by the Apache brand, and doing truly open source following the Apache Way. With my Community development hat, I would really like to see a wide discussion on how the IPMC and COMDEV PMC could find ways to help these struggling podlings succeed, instead of just giving ultimates for seeking retirement. Things that come to mind are : make it easier for new contributors to find tasks that they could work on, more visibility for podlings in Apache sponsored conferences, etc Thoughts ? Other possible ideas ? Thanks -- Luciano Resende Sent from my iPhone -- Luciano Resende http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://twitter.com/lresende1975 http://lresende.blogspot.com/
