Hi Matt... Allow me to disagree with you :), there is no confusion but the problem is that most of the people click on reply to all which includes general@address by mistake most probably they don notice it.
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) < chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Hi Arvind, > > Okey dok, just thought if you were going to cut down on confusion, it might > make sense to *not* include general@, regardless of the guidelines :) > Otherwise, > some IPMC person like me might think (regardless of what you put in your > email) > that you are intending it as a VOTE for the IPMC. > > That's why they are, guidelines, but I don't think they are perfect. > > Anyhoo, I'll just ignore the VOTE thread on general@, and assume that > it's really for the Sqoop PPMC at this point. > > Cheers, > Chris > > //notes to self, maybe I should go update those guidelines, as they don't > //make sense to me, but who doesn't have the energy to do so at this point. > I can look into that today or tomorrow :) > > On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: > > > Thanks Chris for your feedback. Yes, this vote is only intended to be > held > > in the Sqoop community. However, according to the guide on graduation > [2], > > the guidance on community graduation vote explicitly suggests copying the > > Incubator general list when the vote is proposed. Hence, I added the > > general list in the cc of the vote mail. > > > > Also, I do state explicitly in the vote mail that if this community vote > is > > successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote > > on the general Incubator list. When we do draft the board resolution > > proposal it will have details about initial PMC. > > > > [2] > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote > > > > Thanks, > > Arvind Prabhakar > > > > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) < > > chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > > > >> Hi Arvind, > >> > >> I would encourage removing another ambiguity that I saw -- I think you > >> meant > >> to only hold this on sqoop-dev, right? That's because by the time it > gets > >> to the > >> IPMC, at least one thing I'm interested in is the proposed PMC, if there > >> are > >> 3 ASF members or not, etc., and that would be part of the resolution > that > >> you guys haven't drafted yet. > >> > >> If you hold this on general@, then before VOTE'ing I would like to see > the > >> proposed graduation resolution. There's a bunch of templates, here's the > >> one > >> that Lucy just used: > >> > >> http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/LucyCharter > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Chris > >> > >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I will have to cancel this vote thread due to a typo in the vote > options > >> in > >>> my original mail below. Specifically, the option to reject the vote > >>> is mentioned as +1 when it should be -1 instead. In order to make sure > >> that > >>> there is absolutely no ambiguity in the vote, I will send out a new > vote > >>> thread in a few minutes. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Arvind Prabhakar > >>> > >>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Arvind Prabhakar <arv...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then > >> we > >>>> have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added > two > >>>> new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and > we > >>>> have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines. > >> Thanks to > >>>> the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have > >>>> learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache > >>>> practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and > >> users > >>>> from all across the world. > >>>> > >>>> Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to > graduate > >>>> from Incubator. > >>>> > >>>> The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop > >> is > >>>> ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board > >>>> resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list. > >> The > >>>> complete graduation process is described [1]. > >>>> > >>>> Please cast your votes: > >>>> > >>>> [ ] +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator > >>>> [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop > >>>> [ ] +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator > >>>> > >>>> This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now. > >>>> > >>>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> Arvind Prabhakar > >>>> > >> > >> > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > >> Senior Computer Scientist > >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > >> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > >> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Senior Computer Scientist > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour ---- "Life is like riding a bicycle. 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