I can't figure out what is more important to you at this point Robert, salvaging your ego or helping your podling succeed here. If I were in your shoes I would stop trying to defend my past actions there and give the podling a clear choice: what's more
important to them- faithful implementation of an Oracle led JSR or advancement to a full Apache project? Open source projects control their own destiny, not Oracle, and that is just as true with Kato as it was with Harmony. >________________________________ > From: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> >To: general@incubator.apache.org >Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 10:45 AM >Subject: Re: Actively retiring projects > >On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin >> <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Ross Gardler >>> <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote: >>>> On 16 January 2012 11:51, Robert Burrell Donkin >>>> <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>>> Terminating projects with active communities is the area of active dispute >>>> >>>> Can you please provide a link to a message in the archive that states >>>> that a project with an active community should be terminated? >>> >>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201201.mbox/%3CCAOFYJNbZ6PYSHZnfgm7GQSVwECoKqDQRjHMJwOLCmXCYUBbiUA%40mail.gmail.com%3E >> >> Close reading of that message indicates a suggestion that an inactive >> community be terminated. > >The email suggests termination as the final solution for a number of podlings > >If the intention was to highlight potentially inactive podlings, >labeling them as 'inactive' would have been clearer > ><snip> > >>> Language is important. Project 'termination' feels very different from >>> 'parking' or 'emeritus graduation', even though the actions taken in >>> each case may be very similar. >> >>> IMO it's time to start thinking about, describing and documentation >>> exit paths which lead outside Apache without a judgment of failure on >>> anyone's part >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#graduated >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#dormant >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#retired >> >> Perhaps "dormant" would be an appropriate description of the Kato >> polding at this time? > >Kato is now - and has been - stalled for more than a year: work was >stopped by an external impediment (rather than interest drifting away) >[1] > >It would have been clearer to be able to mark this sort of situation >and suspend animation > >Robert >[1] The community awaits a decision from Oracle. At one time, this was >expected promptly. Now hope fades. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > >
