+1, I couldn't have said it any better myself, Joe. Cheers, Chris
On Jan 9, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > I would like to see the Incubator someday reach the point where > we could DISTRIBUTE our oversight across the podling lists, where > graduation votes are largely ceremonial other than vetting the > language, where release votes happen solely on dev lists, etc. > > But we will NEVER get there and still do a responsible job of > oversight until we can get to the point where we can reliably > TRUST the word of a podling mentor about the state of affairs > of a podling. And if we've never actually read the words of > a mentor summarizing a podling's activities, how are we supposed > to suddenly start trusting them come graduation time? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Cc: >> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 2:42 PM >> Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings >> >> I was even thinking something like 'miss two reports, you're no longer a >> mentor', but that might be a bit draconian :-) >> >> I know I would fail according to the above criteria. But I suspect a >> clear minimum would help keep me at least minimally connected. >> >> Upayavira >> >> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >>> Lame. I would actually like to see mentors WRITING the reports >>> at least for the first 6 months to a year, then going to sign-off >>> on the wiki. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: William A. Rowe Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net> >>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org >>>> Cc: Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 1:23 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings >>>> >>>> On 1/9/2012 11:40 AM, Upayavira wrote: >>>>> Regarding attrition of mentors, it was discussed having mentors >>>> 'sign' >>>>> the board report for their podling. Could that be encouraged, and >> used >>>>> as a sign of minimum 'activity' for a mentor? >>>> >>>> How about simply sign off on podling-dev@? Even if it is "Thanks >> for >>>> drafting this! No edits from me." >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org