I would like to see the Incubator someday reach the point where
we could DISTRIBUTE our oversight across the podling lists, where
graduation votes are largely ceremonial other than vetting the
language, where release votes happen solely on dev lists, etc.

But we will NEVER get there and still do a responsible job of
oversight until we can get to the point where we can reliably
TRUST the word of a podling mentor about the state of affairs
of a podling.  And if we've never actually read the words of
a mentor summarizing a podling's activities, how are we supposed
to suddenly start trusting them come graduation time?




----- Original Message -----
> From: Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings
> 
> I was even thinking something like 'miss two reports, you're no longer a
> mentor', but that might be a bit draconian :-)
> 
> I know I would fail according to the above criteria. But I suspect a
> clear minimum would help keep me at least minimally connected.
> 
> Upayavira
> 
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>  Lame.  I would actually like to see mentors WRITING the reports
>>  at least for the first 6 months to a year, then going to sign-off
>>  on the wiki.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  > From: William A. Rowe Jr. <wr...@rowe-clan.net>
>>  > To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>  > Cc: Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk>
>>  > Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 1:23 PM
>>  > Subject: Re: Small but otherwise happy podlings
>>  > 
>>  > On 1/9/2012 11:40 AM, Upayavira wrote:
>>  >>  Regarding attrition of mentors, it was discussed having mentors 
>>  > 'sign'
>>  >>  the board report for their podling. Could that be encouraged, and 
> used
>>  >>  as a sign of minimum 'activity' for a mentor?
>>  > 
>>  > How about simply sign off on podling-dev@?  Even if it is "Thanks 
> for
>>  > drafting this!  No edits from me."
>>  > 
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