On 10 October 2011 12:18, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 12:28 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 10 October 2011 09:09, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:58 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 10 October 2011 02:02, David Crossley <cross...@apache.org> wrote: >>>>> sebb wrote: >>>>>> Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I've not started looking at generating projects/index.xml yet. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Reading the past mails shows me you are +1 to commit the layout >>>>>> >>> changes. You are already working on the next steps :-) >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> I'm not keen on losing the RH podling list, if that's what you mean; I >>>>>> >> think it's useful. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > You was the only one who said so so far. WIth the bootstrap layout the >>>>>> > project/index.html is even more readable than before. >>>>> >>>>> I reckon that it is important that the list of >>>>> current podlings continues to be prominently displayed. >>>>> Go to separate tables for further information. >>> >>> But not on every page. >>> It is acceptable to have such a list on the front page, but please not >>> on every single page. And if it is on the front page, then not as a >>> third, tiny column messing up everything. >> >> In what way does it mess up everything currently? >> >> Can you post a screenshot somewhere we can inspect? > > I meant the website which is currently online. > > Its functional, but it is ugly and confusing. This is taste of course, > but for me it looks like a mess, here are some reasons: > > - 95+ visible links on a webpage visible navigation is a mess for me.
It's not much longer than the LHS navigation, and would be a similar length if the non-project entries were removed as previously proposed. > - The list of projects is nothing else than a menu which is opened by > default. Two different standard ways (projects/index.html and sidebar) > lead to the same information - it is a duplicate navigation. The problem I have is that projects/index.html is not easy to navigate, because the page is *much* longer than the RHS list. It's longer even if the non-active podlings were moved to a separate page. > This is a > mess to, at least what I have learned about web navigation. Hard to > navigate, except you learned it. There's nothing difficult about the current RH links. > - Instead we should provide one standard navigation way (as many other > websites) Choice is not necessarily bad. > and a new idea, we should provide breadcrumbs. Those are hard to get right. > - There is even more I would change, now thinking about it: > > - Entry Guides has just one item: Proposal Guide. proposal guide > should be the main item, Entry guides need to be removed. > > - Entry guides link to http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html, > which duplicates navigation from the main left. > > - The "other guides" navigation item is named "General Incubator > Guides" at the http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html site. > > - Alternative: Entry guides can stay as table of content for guides > and the "podling guides" navigation and the "Other guides" navigation > must disappear. > > - "Status of the Clutch" and the sub item "Current Podling Status" > links to the same page. Make only one item, everything else is > confusing. > > > Thats exactly what I mean with a mess. Hope it clarifies a bit, b/c I > thought about it a pretty long time. I agree that the LHS menu is confusing and messy, but for me, the RHS list is simple and useful. > Cheers, > Christian > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
