On 14 June 2011 19:39, Richard Frovarp <rfrov...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 12:31 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:43:21PM -0500, Richard Frovarp wrote:
>>>
>>> Please vote on the release cndidate for Apache Droids Incubating,
>>> version 0.1-incubating. I've received one binding IPMC +1 votes and 2
>>> non-binding +1 votes.
>>>
>>> PPMC release vote thread:
>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-droids-dev/201106.mbox/%3c4de7d6cc.8080...@apache.org%3E
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Looks like this is the inaugural ASF release for Droids, right?
>
> Thank you for looking at this. Yes, it will be.
>
>>
>> First, congratulations on getting this far!  It can take a long time and a
>> lot
>> of effort to get to the point where a podling's contributors feel
>> comfortable
>> proposing an ASF release.
>>
>> That said, I have some questions about the PPMC vote thread.  Droids has
>> the
>> following roster, according to the status page:
>>
>>     Mentors      Ross Gardler
>>                  Paul Fremantle
>>                  Grant Ingersoll
>>
>>     Committers   Thorsten Scherler
>>                  Ryan McKinley
>>                  Grant Ingersoll
>>                  Oleg Kalnichevski
>>
>> This is the tally for the PPMC vote:
>>
>>     +1  Torsten Scherler
>>     +1  Richard Frovarp
>>     +1  Bertil Chapuis
>>
>> The Droids status page has apparently not been kept up to date, since
>> there
>> are numerous authors listed at...
>>
>>
>> http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/ASF/search?path=%2Fincubator%2Fdroids
>>
>> ... and both Richard Frovarp and Bertil Chapuis seem to have commit
>> rights.
>> Can you please confirm that the three +1 votes all belong to people who
>> are
>> official members of the Droids PPMC?
>
> Yes, the page needs to be updated. Ross has provided us with a link to the
> page on how to update that information. I personally haven't had time to do
> it. I think I'm on the PPMC, but for the Incubator, I'm not quite sure the
> distinction between a PPMC member and a committer.
>
>>
>> Then there's the IMPC vote, which looks like it comes from Thorsten
>> Scherler.
>> According to this...
>>
>>     http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc
>>
>> ... Thorsten is not on the IPMC right now, though as an ASF Member he can
>> simply request to join.  Once that happens, you'll have 1 IPMC vote.
>>
>
> But he is. Several months ago the board acked his request, but it would
> appear that the IPCM membership roster hasn't been updated.

Indeed.

The request was sent to the board on Dec 4th 2010, and it was acked by
Bertrand Delecretaz the same day.

Committee-info.txt and the LDAP group need to be updated.

>
>> However, none of the Droids Mentors appear to have participated in the
>> vote.
>> I know one of them is camping and one took a new job recently, but still,
>> it's
>> troubling.
>>
>
> Ross participated in a previous vote that didn't pass as we found things we
> need to clean up. It would seem he didn't have the time to participate this
> time.
>
>> In principle, I'd like to freelance and contribute some oversight towards
>> your
>> release by performing a surface review and voting.  I can check license
>> headers, sigs and sums, etc, and help with an audit of LICENSE and NOTICE,
>> especially if we can work together to produce an authoritative list of the
>> project's dependencies.  Unfortunately, my Java expertise is almost all
>> theoretical, so code review will be limited to fumbling around until I
>> figure
>> out how to run the test suite and verify that it passes.
>
> I can put together a list. Maven should give it to me easily and I can post.
> I've gone through it quite carefully and everything I can see indicates that
> we are good. I've been doing some of this as PMC Chair for Apache Lenya, so
> I do have some experience with it. Further help and guidance of course is
> always welcome.
>
>>
>> However, I won't personally feel comfortable contributing a +1 without at
>> least one of your Mentors signing off, particularly for a first release
>> which
>> endorses the IP clearance process.
>>
>
> Fair enough.
>
>> I've only been on the IPMC a few weeks.  Can any of our more experienced
>> hands
>> offer recommendations about the best way to proceed?
>
> Thanks once again.
>
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