Cmon Jim, he wrote a lengthy monologue which spelled
out his position.  As I read it, we could license
the OpenOffice trademark to the Document Foundation
for, as Simon put it, "business as usual" distributions.
If we wanted to we could specify a time/date/event
upon which that license terminates, and the "new"
stuff going on at the ASF would be distributing code
under the mark.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Fri, June 3, 2011 1:58:51 PM
> Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the 
Community?
> 
> 
> On Jun 3, 2011, at 1:36 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On 3  Jun 2011, at 17:52, Ian Lynch wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi  Florian,
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> I do see with great concern  is the need for a second project to be set-up
> >>> at Apache or any  other entity.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Thing is that this is  done, Oracle didn't and won't now give the IP to any
> >> other  foundation.  So we are where we are.
> > 
> > We may be where we  are, but we collectively have the opportunity to 
>collaborate once Oracle has  gone - that's what "open" means.  "My way or the 
>highway" talk - from any  side - is detestable.  ASF has the opportunity to 
>reject the bait to head  down the path of ideological conflict, choose a 
>conciliatory path that respects  the existing community and especially to use 
>the trademark (which is the only  actual asset being transferred) for 
>everyone's 
>good.
> > 
> 
> Let's be  honest: by "collaborate" you mean have the ASF simply
> xfer the code and the  trademark to TDF and walk away... At least,
> that is the strong impression you  give. Please correct me if  I'm
> wrong.
> 
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