On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Niclas Hedhman <nic...@hedhman.org> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Justin Erenkrantz > <jus...@erenkrantz.com> wrote: > >> As Hyrum suggests, we can use org.apache.subversion.* if we want to >> create a new (better) Java interface within our versioning rules - but >> that isn't necessary nor should it be a pre-req for graduation. > > IMNSHO, either Subversion address this issue pre-graduation, OR we > remove the package name change requirement for ALL incubating > projects, leaving it up to the project post-graduation to address it.
Any reference to this being a requirement? I looked for it the other day but didn't find anything. "If its not documented rule it is not a rule". > It has been a contentious issue in the past, and will be so in the > future, and I am not going to defend ASF's position if it doesn't > apply to everyone. > > I would actually like to hear from more Java-centric developers of > Board and IPMC what they think about this... I wouldn't say I'm java-centric but I do a lot of it :) I think package renaming is in many cases required for branding or trademark reasons (which goes both ways -- org.apache.java.framework was an issue once, com.google.httpd would be today, but on the upside "import org.apache" may make people feel nice and cosy, too). I think sf.net.<foo> or org.tigris.<foo> is not that big an issue to keep (for a while), if there's good enough reasons (like api compatibility for an established codebase). Beyond that, I personally think the java standards for package naming are really a mixed blessing, and if a project wanted to break them (say subversion decided to go with subversion.<stuff> instead of org.apache.subversion.<stuff>), fine, good luck to them. Regardless of the stupidity of the rules (or the stupidity of breaking the rules), we as incubator should really not even try to enforce these kinds of standards; projects should make their own decisions about that. ciao, Leo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
