As I said on d...@felix and will repeat here:
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I don't agree about renaming the [Felix] TLP. There are so many examples
of similar situations. I cannot believe we are truly in a unique
situation here:
* "Apache" typically means the HTTP Server project, but it also
refers to the foundation and all of its independent projects.
* "Eclipse" typically means the IDE, but there is also a runtime and
foundation with independent projects.
Acting like this isn't normal or something that is too confusing to ever
resolve seems a bit preposterous.
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While I don't believe the situation is as confusing as is contended, I
have no issue with coming up with a different name for the Apache Felix
Framework (its name is technically Framework right now), so that the
Apache Felix project can continue to pursue its original charter.
-> richard
On 9/1/09 12:58, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
I'm not subscribing to d...@felix.a.o at the moment, but would still like to
hear the outcome of this...
Richard, we (you and I at least) have discussed this more than once in the
past and I totally agree with Guillaume that the perception is there, it is
everything and near impossible to change. I ALSO agree with Richard that
spec implementations should reside with Felix.
Now, I think name manipulations are going to be necessary. My take is;
Apache Felix = a OSGi framework, runtime, installers, binaries, bells and
whistles. The whole kitchen sink if you like. The framework implementation
itself probably lives here, with the Core spec service implementations.
Apache Foo = a foundry to dev OSGi spec implementations. One or many. Most
will be dependencies to Felix, but the detach shows that they are intended
for all.
Apache Bar = a component foundry outside the spec suite.
And let Aries, Karaf, Ace and what else in future to go TLP if/when they are
ready.
I think ServiceMix has with its friends shown how nice eco-systems can work,
and with OSGi's modularity strengths it should be even more so... In fact,
instead of seeing this as a weakening of Felix position (which is what I
think Richard sees), I think it will strengthen OSGi's natural place in the
Apache Landscape.
Don't forget, you are free to participate at as many places as you wish.
-- Niclas
P.S. Sorry for poor quoting. On mobile...
On Sep 2, 2009 12:14 AM, "Guillaume Nodet"<gno...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 18:06, Richard S. Hall<he...@ungoverned.org> wrote:
Creating another pr...
Well, the problem I see here is that we *need* to educate non-techies. This
obvisouly mean that there is a confusion. Education is just a work around
the need to remove the confusion imho. So let's discuss that on
d...@felix.a.o, I don't think this thread belongs here.
-- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet ------------------------ Blog:
http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ ----------...
