I'm not subscribing to d...@felix.a.o at the moment, but would still like to hear the outcome of this...
Richard, we (you and I at least) have discussed this more than once in the past and I totally agree with Guillaume that the perception is there, it is everything and near impossible to change. I ALSO agree with Richard that spec implementations should reside with Felix. Now, I think name manipulations are going to be necessary. My take is; Apache Felix = a OSGi framework, runtime, installers, binaries, bells and whistles. The whole kitchen sink if you like. The framework implementation itself probably lives here, with the Core spec service implementations. Apache Foo = a foundry to dev OSGi spec implementations. One or many. Most will be dependencies to Felix, but the detach shows that they are intended for all. Apache Bar = a component foundry outside the spec suite. And let Aries, Karaf, Ace and what else in future to go TLP if/when they are ready. I think ServiceMix has with its friends shown how nice eco-systems can work, and with OSGi's modularity strengths it should be even more so... In fact, instead of seeing this as a weakening of Felix position (which is what I think Richard sees), I think it will strengthen OSGi's natural place in the Apache Landscape. Don't forget, you are free to participate at as many places as you wish. -- Niclas P.S. Sorry for poor quoting. On mobile... On Sep 2, 2009 12:14 AM, "Guillaume Nodet" <gno...@gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 18:06, Richard S. Hall <he...@ungoverned.org> wrote: > > Creating another pr... Well, the problem I see here is that we *need* to educate non-techies. This obvisouly mean that there is a confusion. Education is just a work around the need to remove the confusion imho. So let's discuss that on d...@felix.a.o, I don't think this thread belongs here. -- Cheers, Guillaume Nodet ------------------------ Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ ----------...