Unfortunately a typical response from you. Guess there's no point in even trying..
-- dims On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 27-Sep-08, at 7:46 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > >> Jason, >> >> Exactly why in previous discussions i already asked..."Can the maven >> folks provide another way to do this?" (not showing disclaimers >> necessarily, something that the user has to do one time works too. >> Example: apt-get and keys) >> > > We could do anything, but I'm not implementing pop ups. But you can. > > On a download event the build could stop and make people read "An ode to the > Incubator: How important we are, and how like children you all are". Or we > could make them listen to that enduring audio classic: "Did someone in the > incubator just make something up that no one has ever heard of before?" That > one always makes me laugh (cry). Maybe we can humor the users in the hopes > they don't get pissed off with us because we intentionally made things > harder then they have to be. > > I'll hope that people rely on the same tool that keeps them from sniffing > the ends of loaded shotguns, or bathing with toasters. That would be the > brain. > >> -- dims >> >> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On 27-Sep-08, at 7:03 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: >>> >>>> Am asking because, the way the situation is being portrayed is that >>>> anyone using maven is totally unable to use the incubator >>>> artifacts...that's wrong. >>>> >>> >>> It's just amazingly inconvenient. >>> >>> Take the 10 minutes (and that's a conservative number) that every user >>> goes >>> through groping around trying to figure out how setup the repositories >>> and >>> multiply that by 5k (which is not unreasonable for something as popular >>> as >>> JSecurity) and now multiply that by the number of projects and we're >>> literally getting into man years of wasted time. To consciously inflict >>> this >>> on people when it's not necessary is exacting a serious amount of damage. >>> Every user who can't build something here as a first time user is going >>> to >>> make their first experience a bad one. >>> >>> For us to pontificate here about how we should be protecting a generally >>> intelligent user base while wasting man years of users' valuable time to >>> me >>> is wrong. >>> >>>> thanks, >>>> dims >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Jukka, >>>>> >>>>> I see where you are going with this. But what i cannot for the life of >>>>> me understand is why adding a tiny snippet of xml to project B's pom >>>>> is so objectionable (adding another repo)? No one has yet answered >>>>> that question for me. >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> dims >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Jukka Zitting >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 11:21 PM, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know...hence my VOTE was what it was. >>>>>> >>>>>> So my questions go out to people who opposed the proposed policy >>>>>> change: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Is it OK for project A to bundle the incubating dependency? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) If yes, why should things be more complex for project B? >>>>>> >>>>>> BR, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jukka Zitting >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Davanum Srinivas :: http://davanum.wordpress.com >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Jason van Zyl >>> Founder, Apache Maven >>> jason at sonatype dot com >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Simplex sigillum veri. 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