Re: [DISCUSS] Web20Kit: A Web 2.0 technology evaluation kit

[Craig L Russell]

Hi Brett,

On Aug 26, 2008, at 7:13 PM, Brett Porter wrote:

Without too much thought into the rest of it just now, the first thing
I thought was that this would have something to do with WebKit, which
it doesn't and would probably be very confusing?

Thanks,

Craig

Yes, it does sound too much like webkit upgraded if you will to use some web 2.0 features. So let's discuss the merits of the proposal and in parallel try to find a better name.

- Brett

2008/8/27 Craig L Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

This is a proposal to incubate
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/Web20KitProposal

We're looking for a couple more mentors.

Web20Kit

Abstract

reasonably complex application in several different technologies.

Proposal

performance, and scalability of popular web technologies. Multiple

functionality but staying true to the philosophy of its base
language/framework.

Background

httpd, Tomcat, MySQL, Memcache, and Glassfish. Many other

gaining popularity.


grows.

Rationale
Web2.0kit is a toolkit that will attempt to address the above issues.

What it does


define ways to drive load against the application in order to measure
performance.


others.

What you can learn from it

a) Understand how to use various web 2.0 technologies such as AJAX,

how to get around issues with these technologies.


work for your situation.


PostgreSQL, Ruby vs Jruby etc.)

d) Drive load against the application to evaluate the performance and
scalability of the chosen platform.


DB access API) by replacing portions of code in the application.

A robust, community-developed standard implementations of a web 2.0

available to everyone, we will enable faster and easier application
development for users. Although we list three implementations in this

stacks and/or frameworks e.g. Spring framework, Python etc.

Current Status
This is a new project with some sample not-ready-for-prime-time code.

Meritocracy

for the project.

Community


Core Developers
The initial core developers are Sun Microsystems, Inc. employees, and


Alignment
The developers of the Web20Kit want to work with the Apache Software
Foundation specifically because Apache has proven to provide a strong
foundation and set of practices for community-based development.

Known RisksOrphaned products

development, and is not orphaned.

Inexperience with Open Source

practices.

Homogenous Developers

expand this and that is a primary reason for bringing this project to
Apache.

Reliance on Salaried Developers
Although part of the initial development team are students, the core
developers are employed by Sun Microsystems.

Relationships with Other Apache Products

PHP, and which the initial PHP implementation uses.

A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand

The brand is nice, but is not why we wish to come to Apache.

DocumentationInitial Source

application. UC Berkeley intends to donate code for the Ruby on Rails
implementation.



External DependenciesRequired Resources
Developer mailing lists
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A subversion repository

A JIRA issue tracker

Initial Committers
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Akara Sucharitakul <
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SponsorsChampion
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Craig Russell <
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Nominated Mentors
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Craig Russell <
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Sponsoring Entity
The Apache Incubator.

Craig L Russell

Web20Kit is a web 2.0 toolkit to help developers evaluate the suitability, functionality and performance of various web technologies by implementing a Web20Kit will develop an example application to understand the benefits, implementations of the application are planned - each providing the same Most web 2.0 sites today use open source languages and frameworks such as PHP, Ruby on Rails, and Java EE to develop their applications. Deployments of these applications also use popular open source servers such as Apache servers/technologies such as lighttpd, mogileFS, mongrels, JRuby are also With the myriad technologies available, it is not easy to understand how they differ, especially in terms of performance and scalability. With varied levels of documentation available for some open source applications, it is also quite difficult for a web 2.0 startup to understand the correct usage of these technologies so that they don't become a bottleneck as their site Web20Kit defines an example web 2.0 application (the initial implementation uses an events site somewhat like yahoo.com/upcoming) and provides three implementations: PHP, Java EE, and Ruby on Rails. The toolkit will also As developers join the project, they can implement the same application using their favorite web frameworks and compare their implementations to memcached, mogileFS etc. in the creation of your own application. Use the code in the application to understand the subtle complexities involved and b) Evaluate the differences in the implementations: PHP, Ruby on Rails, Java EE, and other contributed implementations to understand which might best c) Within each language implementation, evaluate different infrastructure technologies by changing the servers used (e.g: apache vs lighttpd, MySQL vs e) Experiment with different algorithms (e.g. memcache locking, a different application using different technologies will enable developers to compare and contrast these technologies in a manner that does not exist today. By providing excellent sample implementations of a concrete application that is proposal, we encourage others to come up with many more using other language The initial developers are very familiar with meritocratic open source development, both at Apache and elsewhere. Apache was chosen specifically because the initial developers want to encourage this style of development Web20Kit seeks to create developer and user communities during incubation. faculty and students at UC Berkeley. We hope to expand this very quickly. This project has a lot of enthusiasm among the core developers, has ongoing The initial developers are well-versed in open source methodologies and The initial group of developers is from two organizations. We would like to None in particular, except that Apache HTTPD is the most common place to run We believe in the processes, systems, and framework Apache has put in place. Sun Microsystems Inc. intends to donate code for their PHP implementation of the sample events application as well as code to drive load against the This code is still a work in progress and will be provided primarily as a starting place for a much more robust, community- developed implementation. Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/ jdo

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