Just out of curiosity, where does this fit in versus, say, Selenium, MaxQ, Canoo WebTest, and others?
There's nothing wrong if Windmill does the same stuff - I'm just curious what it can do in comparison. Cheers, Les On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Mikeal Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > This is a proposal to enter the incubator. > > See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WindmillProposal for the most > up-to-date version. > > We look forward to comments and discussion. > > = Abstract = > > The goal of Windmill is to build the best tool for automated testing of > dynamic Web applications across all major browsers. > > = Proposal = > > Windmill provides a full-stack automation solution for dynamic > Web-application testing. > > It accomplishes this by implementing an extensive test API in JavaScript, > and providing an intelligent proxy that can overcome the browser's > same-domain security policy. The test API allows a single test to run on > every major browser across all major operating systems. > > Windmill boasts a wide range of debugging and test-authoring tools that > make test writing, debugging, and editing a more streamlined process. > > = Background = > > Windmill was created at the Open Source Applications Foundation by Mikeal > Rogers and Adam Christian to test the Chandler Server Web UI. It was > announced more broadly at OSCON 2007 and has since enjoyed a wide range of > use and contributions. > > In January 2008, all the full-time, paid contributors from OSAF moved on to > other employment. The project has since retained steady contribution despite > having no full-time, paid contributors. > > In July 2008, we proposed the project move its hosting away from OSAF > because of uncertainty about long term sustainability -- due to OSAF's > transition to a smaller-scale, mostly volunteer structure. > > = Rationale = > > Windmill was created to fulfill a need for a better dynamic Web-application > testing tool after much frustration with existing solutions. We believe it > has accomplished this goal and continues to improve, with ongoing, open > interaction with the community. > > What the project currently lacks is clear direction, leadership, and > process. We believe the project would benefit greatly from Incubator > mentorship, which would allow it to see much wider adoption, and grow a > broader community. > > = Current Status = > > == Meritocracy == > > Since the project's inception, its development has been coordinated through > collaborative decision-making (e.g., "+1 voting") on the mailing list, and > open discussion on IRC. > > == Community == > > Although the list of Core Developers has remained small we've welcomed > outside contributions. Along with a few small but good patches, we've > received some very good bugs and numerous features requests from the > community. Our wiki documentation is being continually improved by our > users. > > We also have a very good reputation of providing support and resolving > problems on IRC (#windmill on irc.freenode.net).A number of our users have > stayed around to help others in need. > > == Core Developers == > > Mikeal Rogers (Most of the Python code) > Adam Christian (Most of the JavaScript code) > > == Alignment == > > Since Windmill was started at OSAF, it has enjoyed contributions from a > variety of paid staff at OSAF. All of those employees are now employed > elsewhere -- below are the ones that are still active. > > * Mikeal Rogers (Mozillla) > * Adam Christian (Slide) > * Matthew Eernisse (Seesmic) > > = Known Risks = > > == Orphaned Products == > > The project has survived the loss of paid contributions and continues to > grow in use, despite a clear lack of leadership (I have only myself to > blame). > > == Inexperience with Open Source == > > All the contributors have a history in open-source development and the > policies of the project were developed with the help of Ted Leung. > > == Reliance on Salaried Developers == > > As of July 2008 one developer is paid part-time for his work on Windmill. > The rest of the contributions are all volunteer at this time. > > == A Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand == > > One can't ignore the impact the Apache brand has on a project, but what > this project needs isn't branding -- it's the benefit of Incubator > mentorship, direction, leadership, and process. > > = Documentation = > > http://windmill.osafoundation.org/ > > = Initial Source = > > The code is currently hosted on OSAF's Subversion server. > > http://svn.osafoundation.org/windmill/ > > = Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan = > > We've gotten consent from OSAF to move the project to new location. > > = External Dependencies = > > We have a long list of external Python dependencies. These dependencies are > managed via setuptools and are not distributed with the Windmill product and > as such should not need be a licensing concern. > > = Required Resources = > > == Mailing lists == > > * windmill-commits > * windmill-dev > * windmill-users > > == Subversion Directory == > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/windmill > > == Issue Tracking == > > JIRA Windmill > > = Initial Committers = > > * Mikeal Rogers > * Adam Christian > * Matthew Eernisse > > = Sponsors = > > == Champion == > > Ted Leung > > == Nominated Mentors == > > * Ted Leung > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >