Henri Yandell wrote:

> Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> > I really do not know why we have to revisit this same topic year after
year
> > after year.  We do not want people to be using any Incubator artifact
> > without explicit knowledge and action, so we do not want them polluting
the
> > standard repository.

> And as with every year I'll call "BS" :)

> We do want people to use them, and we do want them on the standard
> repository. They are releases.

They are *Incubator* releases.  And we do care that people are aware of that
status.  You are free to try to convince the Board and/or Membership to
change the Incubator's mandate, but until then that is the issue.

We want awareness and consent by the end-user, not "hinderance."  This is
analogous to the multiverse repository (or even a PPA repository), vs main
and security in Ubuntu-land.  A user must explicitly choose to allow
artifacts found in repositories other than main and security.  There are
disclaimers associated with the repositories.

FWIW, I agree with James that we would use signing to be more fine-grained,
but didn't want to go into that degree of detail in the earlier discussion.

> If the nays get their way though - the solution is easy. Release your
> incubating release outside the ASF and get it sync'd from there to the
> central repository.

Before suggesting that projects intentionally circumvent ASF procedure, you
might want to discuss that with Justin and/or Dave Johnson, since they spent
a lot of time dealing with it for Roller.

        --- Noel



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