On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:04 PM, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 30/05/2008, Brian E. Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I personally think we have conflicting rules in the way we handle >> incubator releases. >> >> >> >> On the one hand, we require incubator releases to be in a separate >> repository... for whatever reason (they aren't part of Apache, they >> aren't stable enough, etc). >> On the other hand, we allow regular releases >> of apache artifacts into the central repository with dependencies on >> incubator artifacts. >> > > That's wrong, IMO. > >> >> On many occasions, I've seen this cause people lots of confusion because >> they update to a new version of an existing artifact and suddenly their >> build fails to find a dependency. (because the new version is now using >> an incubating artifact) >> >> >> >> IMO, things going into the central repository must have their entire >> transitive hull available in the central repository. Therefore, we must >> draw one of two conclusions: >> >> >> >> 1. Incubator releases go into Central > > -1 > >> >> 2. Regular releases cannot use Incubator artifacts >> > > +1 > >> >> Since the whole point of the incubator releases is to get some people to >> use them and prove them out, I say 2 is not really an option. > > They can still be tried. > > But products should not be released to the repository with a > dependency on incubator releases. > >> If the PMC >> of a given project tests out an incubator artifact and deems it good >> enough for a release, then that should be enough.... > > As has been pointed out before, it's not just about code quality. > > AIUI, formal ASF releases have some legal protection for the people > who make the release. > This is not the case if the software has not been formally approved as > an ASF release.
I thought the opposite as podlings are only allowed to release following a vote from the incubator PMC - I went looking at the docs and found the following statement to support that: "Every incubator release is also an Apache release" http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#rules Niall >> But let's make it >> easier for the users by having those dependencies available. >> >> >> >> --Brian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
