IANAL, but I am pretty sure you are right. However, I think there is an issue on "how simple is simple?". It seems common to talk about 10 lines of code are not infringements, but then noone give any hint of an upper limit. I think it would be good if it could be documented somehow, to get a better
view.

Well, you can't really say for sure how many lines constitutes an original work. Sometimes even long strips of code could be deemed non-copyrightable, due to e.g. heavy use of cut-n-paste, or e.g. a straightforward implementation of a well-known algorithm. And sometimes, a short piece of code, being brilliant and non-obvious might be considered an original body of work.

This is a thorny subject and the conventions change from country to country. Finland has a copyright board for issuing recommendations on a case-by-case on whether something is an original enough body of work or not. Most often they are actually not.

In addition, since many, many patches have over the years been changed, it's very difficult to say whether the original body of work still exists and how much of it still exists. These would need to be resolved case-by-case.

Here's the crappy thing: I know Apache wants to have existing communities. But you can't have an existing community without some existing work. And if Apache is very stingy on the requirements that every single small patch author needs to have a CLA on file, then it's going to be really difficult - in certain cases even impossible - to get these works into Apache :-(.

So, any advice on this matter?

/Janne

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