Please read this thread in its entirety. We've thrashed this topic to
death before.

http://marc.info/?l=incubator-general&m=115699792628108&w=2
http://marc.info/?t=115669727800005&r=1&w=2

-- dims

On 3/16/07, Johnson, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can't any ASL licensed artifact be posted to ibiblio? Does that fact not
completely circumvent the whole intention of making a separate
incubating repository?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:40 AM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Killing the incubator m2 repository
>
> Davanum Srinivas wrote:
>
> > Yes, If the apache projects like say Axis2 and Geronimo set
> up their
> > pom's in a certain fashion (using m2's scope=provided
> mechanism), end
> > users will have to add incubator repos explicitly/consciously and
> > won't get podling jars pulled in w/o their knowledge.
>
> What's the burden imposed by this on the user?  Does this
> mean that we could eliminate the Incubator specific
> repository in favor of <scope>provided</scope>?  And is this
> an appropriate thing, since if Axis2 or Geronimo do that,
> doesn't it mean that the jar is no longer packaged with them
> when they release?  Is that an issue?
>
> If the goals are to help protect users from a naive (as
> contrasted with an
> informed) dependence on projects that haven't yet earned
> their ASF-status, and to ensure that Incubator projects
> aren't just trying to cash in on the ASF-brand without
> adopting our methods, where are the appropriate lines of control?
>
> If (for the sake of argument) WS decides to ship some
> Incubator JAR as part of some WS release, and is supporting
> the release are they counting on the Incubator JAR, or on you
> providing certain functionality?  Of course, that ought to
> weigh into your own decision to include the JAR in the first place.
> Would this be the same as a company using Roller in
> production to sell a service while Roller was still in the
> Incubator?  A service purchaser is expecting a blog, but
> perhaps not counting on how that functionality is provided.
> Should it depend on whether the JAR's API is exposed, or
> simply some functionality that you can maintain/replace?
> Again, reflecting back on the goals.
>
>       --- Noel
>
>
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