Justin, On Sunday October 08 2006 9:55 am, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > On 10/8/06, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, in that case I would really like to see it that > > if committers from other ASF projects read the proposal > > and have a sincere interest in helping, that they be > > included in the initial list, since I think it helps > > bootstrap the community process right off the bat. > > Noel and I were chatting about this last night, and my position is that > I'm okay with 'piling on' by ASF folks *if* the podling community is > happy with that. If the podling folks do not want them on the initial > list and desire that they earn their commit bits through actual > participation, I'm okay with that too.
My question is: how is the podling community supposed to decide if it's OK or not? Prior to the PMC accepting the podling, there isn't any formal lists setup (other than [EMAIL PROTECTED]) for the podling participants to discuss this except through the proposers, which are probably the ones doing the "piling on". I suppose thats part of the "champions" job is to talk to all the participants and gage the concerns and such. I'd just be concerned with flooding the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list with a bunch of "does XXX belong as a commiter on project YYY" type chatter. This list is hard enough to follow somedays. I suppose one idea might be upon proposal submission but prior to the PMC vote, immediately setup the "dev" list so the podling community can start talking and working together to "fix up" the proposal. At that point, other ASF members who were not contacted as part of the proposal could also join the list and possibly help guide the podling, express interest in helping, ask to join as commiters, etc... Basically, try to "jump start" the community before the official iPMC vote. This could ALSO help the iPMC people see how the people are acting, etc... which could also provide valuable insight into helping them vote. -- J. Daniel Kulp Principal Engineer IONA P: 781-902-8727 C: 508-380-7194 F:781-902-8001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
