On 8 Oct 06, at 8:55 AM 8 Oct 06, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:

On 10/8/06, Jim Jagielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

However, in that case I would really like to see it that
if committers from other ASF projects read the proposal
and have a sincere interest in helping, that they be
included in the initial list, since I think it helps
bootstrap the community process right off the bat.


Noel and I were chatting about this last night, and my position is that I'm okay with 'piling on' by ASF folks *if* the podling community is happy with that. If the podling folks do not want them on the initial list and desire that they earn their commit bits through actual participation, I'm okay with
that too.

Noel's said that being the arbitrator of who is on the list should be the role of the Champion and I think that's probably as good as we're going to get. But, by the time the Incubator PMC votes on a proposal, that list must
be set (i.e. no deletions after the vote concludes).  -- justin

+1

In addition I would like to add the process used for OpenEJB as the gold standard for creating this initial list:

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As far as how we came up with the commit list, it's actually pretty neat. For the proposal, I added everyone who had commit. For the actual giving commit, I was much more cautious. I created a status file and gave people basically two months to add their name. I did this for two reasons

1. filters the completely inactive and proves at least some level of activity (you have to at least read the list and update svn) 2. a formal acknowledgment that you understand and agree with our moving to apache and want to participate

We ended up with a smaller list of committers, but actually got some old committers active again, so that was a big plus.
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Jason.

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