I'll wait to see if there's anymore feedback on Cliff's wording, then
will add this to the committers guide.

 -jean


Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> On 7/11/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> > below) and other recent threads, here's what I would propose also be
>> > doc'd:
>> >
>> > "IRC can be used by a podling to bring new people up to speed (e.g.
>> > Q&A between available committers and interested users/contributors),
>> > although such sessions should be archived and made available to those
>> > not able to attend.  However, using IRC as a means to conduct
>> > development/architecture discussions is discouraged.  Even with the
>> > best intentions, experience has shown that it is difficult to maintain
>> > such discussions without implicit decisions being made in the
>> > process."
>>
>> that sounds good. it makes clear that IRC *can* be used for Q/A. and
>> it should be
>> made public. For instance for a Q&A "session" the content could/should
>> end-up in a FAQ or the FAQ should/could be enhanced.
>>
>> also no dev/arch decissions is mentioned.
> 
> 
> Just to be clear, this proposed piece of text was meant to supplement
> what we have now that categorically excludes off-list decision making.
> 
> Cliff
> 
>> > On 7/11/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Jean-
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Given this paragraph in the committers guide [1]:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Everything -- but everything-- inside the Apache world occurs
>> or is reflected in email. As some people say, 'If it isn't in my
>> email, it didn't happen.'
>> > > >
>> > > > Would adding this sentence to the end help?
>> > > >
>> > > >    Decisions only get made on Apache mail lists -- not anywhere
>> > > >    off list, such as IRC, IM, or private emails.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > yes! I like it! I'd like to provide a patch, or go ahead if you have
>> > > "write" rights.
>> > >
>> > > -Matthias
>> > >
>> > > > > btw. 404 for:
>> > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html
>> > > >
>> > > > oof! some post-docathon moldly links need to be cleaned up.
>> thanks for
>> > > > pointing it out.
>> > > >
>> > > >  -jean
>> > > >
>> > > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/committer.html
>> > > >
>> > > >
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