More explicit documentation is usually a good thing, and having clear
docs stating that decisions must only take place on the mailing lists
is no exception...however, that's not really what this thread was
about.

Most of this thread has been about what non-decision-making role
should IRC play, if any, for a podling project?  The XAP folks already
knew decisions shouldn't be made on IRC; they were talking about
whether regular, open IRC discussions could be helpful.  Based on this
thread (particularly Noel and Geir's thoughts, which I steal much of
below) and other recent threads, here's what I would propose also be
doc'd:

"IRC can be used by a podling to bring new people up to speed (e.g.
Q&A between available committers and interested users/contributors),
although such sessions should be archived and made available to those
not able to attend.  However, using IRC as a means to conduct
development/architecture discussions is discouraged.  Even with the
best intentions, experience has shown that it is difficult to maintain
such discussions without implicit decisions being made in the
process."

Thoughts?

Cliff

On 7/11/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jean-


> Given this paragraph in the committers guide [1]:
>
> > Everything -- but everything-- inside the Apache world occurs or is 
reflected in email. As some people say, 'If it isn't in my email, it didn't happen.'
>
> Would adding this sentence to the end help?
>
>    Decisions only get made on Apache mail lists -- not anywhere
>    off list, such as IRC, IM, or private emails.


yes! I like it! I'd like to provide a patch, or go ahead if you have
"write" rights.

-Matthias

> > btw. 404 for:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/howtoparticipate.html
>
> oof! some post-docathon moldly links need to be cleaned up. thanks for
> pointing it out.
>
>  -jean
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/committer.html
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futher stuff:
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