There is a process for incubation, this is what happens when the
process(es) are by-passed. A well written through and inclusive
proposal would sail thru in a jiffy.

thanks,
-- dims

On 2/5/06, Rob Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   The way this 'debate' has continued has been very embarrassing -
> It just makes me wonder why anyone would consider donating code to
> Apache in the future ...
>
>
> On 5 Feb 2006, at 21:03, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>
> >
> > James Strachan wrote:
> >> We have received the generous donation of a complete and working
> >> BPE engine to the ServiceMix project...
> >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/geronimo-servicemix-dev/
> >> 200602.mbox/%
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> the contributor has offered to donate to Apache & complete the
> >> necessary software grants & IP clearance and to work with us on
> >> integrating it into ServiceMix.
> >
> > I assume we'd all get to see the code under an Apache License
> > before deciding to accept.  How else could we vote it in?
> >
> > [SNIP]
> >
> > I'll go out on a limb here :
> >
> >> [X] -1 I object because: .......
> >
> > ... I think that a BPEL engine is something that spans many of the
> > WS and SOA oriented projects at the ASF, such as ServiceMix,
> > Tuscany, Synapse, Agila, etc...
> >
> > However, that's not my main reason, because honestly, if I was the
> > only one that cared about that, I wouldn't ever attempt to stand in
> > the way of people wanting to do cool things.
> >
> > However, this proposal has sent up far too many red flags, has
> > alienated too many people, and is causing too much of a bad feeling
> > in people, for ServiceMix, for Geronimo and for the ASF in general.
> >
> > I'd suggest you make a big effort to cool things down and get a
> > broad conversation going, over at [EMAIL PROTECTED], drive to
> > consensus, and then regroup and try again.
> >
> > geir
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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