Andrew Clark wrote: > Raphaël Luta wrote: > > >>- no source control access > > > We have read-only CVS access[1] already for the entire > project. The details should definitely be more visible, > though. I'll talk to someone about getting it more > prominent on the main site. >
I missed the link. It should indeed be more visible :) > >>I understand that you wouldn't want to setup your own public >>dev infrastructure but using sf.net, codehaus, tigris or >>whatever public infra wouldn't have been very onerous. >> >>My concern here is if no resources have been dedicated >>so far to really build the AjaxTk into an OSS project why >>would that change once it is in incubation ? > > > Let me try to summarize what I think your point is and > you can tell me if I'm wrong. You would feel better > about the submission if it were already a fully formed > OSS project on an external site with full development > infrastructure and long-time active community. Is this > accurate? > The "long time active community" is not accurate and building such a community is a main reason for the Incubator. As far I can tell, what needs to happen to fully OSS AjaxTk is something like this: - cleanup the code/doc/install so that Tk can be consumed by a public community - rework a clear internal separation between AjaxTk and ZCS with different repos, dependency management, indep release cycle, and so on... - adjust internal dev processes to deal with the public infra (and possibly some early external dev) - start building a long term external community by actively attracting new committers I would feel more comfortable if the first 3 steps would be done somewhere else before any incubation starts so that incubation can really focus on the last point. Apache does not bring any value in the first 3 steps that you can't bring by yourself as an ASF member and the amount of work and risk of failure in those 3 first steps is IMO significant. The benefit of such a 2 step process is that this gives you an actual public track record before incubation is decided and voids most concerns about incubation being a pure branding exercicse since a significant amount of work would already have been spent in making the AjaxTk OSS independantly of any Apache commitment. -- Raphaël Luta - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache Portals - Enterprise Portal in Java http://portals.apache.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
