Data Point #1: jUDDI and JaxMe have more people than there were when they exited incubation. In fact jUDDI has given rise to another project Apache Scout which is a JAXR implementation.
avail|dims,sviens,acutright,anou_mana,anil,knvijay,wombachera|ws-juddi,ws-site avail|jochen,dims,rdonkin,ias,mac|ws-jaxme,ws-site Data Point #2: I was personally trying to get at least 2 other projects into the Apache fold (name withheld), but they eventually decided on codehaus. due to complicated/difficult incubation process (at least that was their perception) Data Point #3: Need clear guidlines "3 people who can +1 a release, from 3 different companies"? Am thinking about Apollo, Hermes, Muse and how we could speed up the process for them to exit incubation. Basically Apollo and Hermes can be used stand-alone, and both are used in muse. ws-apollo=dims,stevel,ips,scamp,gawor,meder,mazz,wire,lischke ws-hermes=dims,stevel,ips,scamp,gawor,meder,mazz,wire,lischke ws-muse=dims,stevel,ips,scamp,gawor,meder,mazz,wire -- dims On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:40:42 -0500, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > > by making sure that the project does have a community before it > > leaves the Incubator, as we have been tasked to do, we increase > > its odds for success. > > > Noel, I must say that reading your comment, sounds that you > > are "power hungry" and wants to remain in control. > > Of what? Moreover, mine is just one voice. And why would I care? What I > do care about is the image that the ASF has cultivated. > > > > > it is far more likely to gain community once it leaves incubator > > > The historical facts do not support that perspective. > > So what are the historical facts? Please present some. Which graduated > > project did not gain a wider community after graduation? > > log4cxx appears to be the same three people that have been involved in it > for the past 6 months. mod_aspdotnet does not appear to have any more > committers today than when it left. I'm not sure what is happening with > jUDDI or JaxMe. log4net appears to be just Nicko. log4php appears to be > just Marco, and hasn't been touched in 9 months, as best I can tell from a > quick browse. > > Lenya, Geronimo, Derby, Directory, XMLBeans, and others have been required > to develop their communities, and appear to have benefited from that > requirement. > > > Log4Net has a strong community. It is known as the Logging Services > project. > > If that were the case, there wouldn't be an issue. However, in this case, > the reply was that there are issues in taking responsibility for the code, > based upon limited ability to support the language/platform. > > Personally, I would hope that the incubation tagged distribution would help > to attract additional people to work on the project so that this problem can > go away. > > --- Noel > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
