Noel,

No - I agree :>.

My comments about a mentor is nothing to do with Status files or the like. It's all about having one formal link between the current ASF and the particular project in incubation.

In fact that person doing all the status reports etc. I would see as counterproductive, for all the reasons you detail below. But they should be the person who kicks these things off and helps the PPMC ensure they start occuring.

The "formal mentor" is not even necessarily a development person, just someone who is assigned to assist the project get underway, and who is seen by the INcubator PMC as the person who should be ensuring everything is happening the way it should.

That is *not* the PPMC. The purpose of the PPMC is to get a group in place that will become the PMC on maturation. The mentor is the person guiding the PPMC in its role at the start and playing less of a role as time goes on. But (IMO) you need someone to formally bootstrap the PPMC and ensure everything is going properly.

CHeers,
        Berin

Noel J. Bergman wrote:

Berin,

Just as the ASF Board does with each PMC, we should try to encourage each
PPMC to do the oversight required of it, with guidance from individuals, but
without micro-management by the PMC as a body.

My comment from "PPMCs, Mentors and Chairs" on the PMC list was that
although each PPMC can choose to do things as they find best, my own
preference would be for the production of any such report to be
collaborative, with every PPMC member feeling able to participate.

I'm not sure that there is a beneficial purpose to having a designated
person to deliver the report.  I've been pleased to see different
individuals taking on different responsibilities on the Geronimo PPMC, and
would be concerned that designating certain people for certain tasks could
be counter-productive to letting each PPMC find its own equilibrium.

--- Noel


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