Re: OpenSAML (was RE: Incubator DOA)

[Andrew C. Oliver]

I certainly disagree that I didn't address the issue. Your issue was that you didn't believe the RSA license (that may never get
released, the way things are going ;-) would be royalty-free, which simply disregards the history of the discussion with RSA that
you weren't part of. It will be, whether you believe it or not. Debating that is a waste of our time, since neither of us controls
the terms.
 

I think we have a misunderstanding on what it was I'm taling about.

*My* issue is that it still remains a license that developers would have to get, and there's no guarantee that the license will be
royalty free forever, though I rather think it will. I agree, that's a concern, and it may be that Apache simply can't accept such
any such terms. That's fine too.
 

There is the one I don't believe.  By their statement it did not say 
that developers using the software would have to obtain a seperate 
license that they "INTEND" to be free, then on the next line it kind of 
contradicted that.  IANAL but I see this as WAY more threatening than 
LGPL section 6. .  So I would expect the board to treat this as needing 
to be crystal clear.

I remain of the opinion that if the patent itself is the real issue, then you might as well vote now on that basis. If the terms of
the license that they release sometime in the hopefully near future are the issue, then I think it's simply wise to defer the
discussion until that time.
 

No.  Accepting the project should be tied to the licensing issues 
resolution.  Meaning a legal agreement stating clearly that 
committers/developers/members have the right to use/develop the software 
unhindered and that users can use the software under the same conditions 
as goverened by the ASL license. 

In any case, I haven't dropped it. If you want to vote it down, then do so, and we'll get on with life. Last I heard, the Apache
representative who approached me had sent a note off to RSA expressing concern over the issue, and was awaiting a response.
 

I do not think my concerns are petty and irrelevant as you seem to.

Thanks,

Andy

Sorry to interrupt, please resume your flaming as necessary.

-- Scott

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