On Mon, Jul 7, 2025 at 2:10 AM Pascal Thubert <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello Behcet :)
>
> long time! Many thanks for your review!
>

Sure.

>
> I placed proposed changes in GitHub at
> https://github.com/raw-wg/raw-architecture/commit/0b13749fa529a4282732d8c6fc411689ce75b4a7
>
>
> Please see below:
>
>
>>
>> Summary:
>>
>> This draft reliable and available wireless architecture in the context of
>> deterministic networking or DetNet, i.e. the draft
>>
>> complements DetNet for wireless.
>>
>> Overall, it is a good document, involving huge amount of work, especially
>> I
>> liked Section 3.1.1.1 3rd and 4th paragraphs explaining wireless single
>> point
>> of failure.
>>
>> However it has a number of typos and issues.
>>
>> Major issues:N/A
>>
>> Minor issues:
>>
>> It seems like on DetNet there is currently ongoing research and
>> development
>> involving TSN in IEEE 802.1 and IETF. I suggest that the document makes it
>> clear that Sections 4 and 5 describe roughly a design which needs to be
>> implemented together with TSN as part of link layer.
>>
>>
> Makes sense; First paragraph of section 4.3 becomes:
> "
> 4.3.  RAW and DetNet
>
>    RAW leverages the DetNet Forwarding sub-layer and requires the
>    support of OAM in DetNet Transit Nodes (see figure 3 of
>    [DetNet-ARCHI] for the dynamic acquisition of link capacity and state
>    to maintain a strict RAW service, end-to-end, over a DetNet Network.
>    In turn, DetNet and thus RAW may benefit from / leverage
>    functionality such as provided by TSN at the lower layers.
>  "
>
> Nits/editorial comments:
>>
>> Issues:
>> Many typos:
>> Sec. 2 controled -> controlled
>> 2.1.6 massage & 2.1.6 massaged -> message
>> 3.2 recieve -> receive
>> The assumption us -> is
>> Along a alternative paths -> along alternative paths
>> 5.1 fucntion -> function
>>
>> done
>
>
>> Please check, possibly reword:
>> 3.1.1.1 2nd par.
>>
>> edited as:
> "
>
>    IP Routers leverage routing protocols to reroute to alternate routes
>    in case of a failure.  When links are cabled through the same
>    conduit, they form a shared risk link group (SRLG), and share the
>    same fate if the conduit is cut, making the reroute operation
>    ineffective.  The same effect can happen with virtual links that end
>    up in a same physical transport through the intricacies of nested
>    encapsulation.  In a same fashion, an interferer or an obstacle may
>    affect multiple wireless transmissions at the same time, even between
>    different sets of peers..
> "
>
>
>
>> Through the games of encapsulation
>>
> removed "games"
>
>
>>
>> 3.2 OODA list Point 2
>> may also generate knowledge and wisdom such as a trained model for link
>> quality
>> prediction
>>
>
> Sorry what should I do here ?
>
>

I think you meant machine learning or ML models here, so I suggested making
it specific.



>
>> On Fig. 6 is there or not tunneling on strict RAW over Detnet?
>>
>>
> No, that's the difference with fig 7 where RAW may traverse an uncertain
> area, in which case packets may arrive too late and be discarded.
>
>

Isn't it true that in the core network there is a tunnel (like MPLS tunnel)
somewhere? I suggested mentioning it here, just a suggestion.


> 5.1
>> SD-WAN
>> MPLS-TP undefined
>>
>>
>>
>> Done
>
> Again, many thanks for your review. Please let me know if more changes are
> in order.
>
> Please see above.

Behcet

> all the best,
>
> --
> Pascal
>
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