On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:08 PM Jakub Jelinek via Fortran <fort...@gcc.gnu.org> wrote: > > Hi! > > On powerpc64le-linux target, one can select between two incompatible > long double formats (both of them are 16-byte), __ibm128 which is > a sum of two doubles, and __float128 (note, not implemented through > libquadmath), which is IEEE754 quad format. The default for > long double can be selected with --with-long-double-format={ieee,ibm} > configure options. > AFAIK no distributions switched to --with-long-double-format=ieee > yet (correct me if I'm wrong), but the goal is that eventually all > distros switch to that (like they've switched from the --with-long-double-64 > default to --with-long-double-128 on powerpc64-linux, s390*-linux etc. years > ago). > > libstdc++ has been changed already last year, so that the same > libstdc++.so.6 is ABI compatible with both configurations, in C++ the > IEEE quad long double mangles differently from IBM double double long > double and so it is possible (with quite some work) to achieve that. > Other C++ libraries not shipped as part of gcc are either lucky and don't > use long double on any of its public APIs, then they are compatible with > both, or developers can go the same painful way and support both ABIs in > the same shared library, or they are simply ABI incompatible. > > But, I believe --with-long-double-format={ieee,ibm} configure time choice > doesn't change just the meaning of long double, but also of real(kind=16) > and complex(kind=32), but Fortran name mangling just appends _ and doesn't > encode types. > So, the choices for libgfortran.so.5 are either don't do anything, then > we have from GCC the same SONAME but based on what > --with-long-double-format={ieee,ibm} > distributions choose ABI incompatible libraries, or bump libgfortran > SONAME in GCC 12 on all targets (the problem is that it unnecessarily > changes the SONAME even on targets that don't really need it - unless > there are important ABI changes in the queue for GCC 12 already), but > that to be effective would basically require that all distros change to > --with-long-double-format=ieee together with GCC 12, or change the > SONAME only on powerpc64le somehow (still the problem that all distros > have to change at once), or add some kind=16 suffix letter into the SONAME > if configured --with-long-double-format=ieee (so we'd have > libgfortran.so.5ieee or whatever, and when we'd bump to libgfortran.so.6 > on all arches libgfortran.so.6ieee etc.). > > Or the last option would be to try to make libgfortran.so.5 ABI compatible > with both choices on powerpc64le-linux. From quick skimming of libgfortran, > we have lots of generated functions, which use HAVE_GFC_REAL_16 and > GFC_REAL_16 etc. macros. So, we could perhaps arrange for the compiler > to use r16i or r17 instead of r16 in the names when real(kind=16) is the > IEEE quad on powerpc64le and keep using r16 for the IBM double double. > For the *.F90 generated files, one could achieve it by making sure > the *r16* files are compiled with -mabi=ibmlongdouble, for > *r16i* or *r17* with -mabi=ieeelongdouble and otherwise use kind=16 in > those, for *.c generated files the *GFC_* macros could just ensure that > it doesn't use long double but __ibm128 or __float128 depending on which one > is needed. > But then I see e.g. the io routines to just pass in kind and so > switch (kind) // or len > { > case ...: > *(GFC_REAL_*) = ...; > } > etc. Could we just pretend in the compiler to libgfortran ABI that > powerpc64le-linux real(kind=16) is kind 17 and make sure that if anything > would actually think it is 17 bytes it uses 16 instead (though, kind=10 > on x86-64 or i686 also isn't 10 bytes but 16 or 12, right?). > > Your thoughts on this?
How does glibc deal with this? There's a load of long double ABI in there. Richard. > > Jakub >