On 09/04/2021 16:40, Christopher Dimech wrote:
>> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2021 at 10:37 PM
>> From: "David Brown" <david.br...@hesbynett.no>
>> To: "John Darrington" <j...@darrington.wattle.id.au>, "David Malcolm" 
>> <dmalc...@redhat.com>
>> Cc: g...@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: GCC association with the FSF
>>
>> On 09/04/2021 08:37, John Darrington wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Nobody is suggesting that RMS should be regarded by everyone or indeed
>>> anyone as "mein Führer".  I think he would be very much concerned if anyone
>>> tried to confer a cult hero status on him.
>>>
>>> Sooner or later, if for no reason other than his age, RMS will have to step
>>> down as leader of GNU.   Rather than calling for his head on a block it
>>> would be more constructive to think to the future.  Unfortunately to date,
>>> I have not seen anyone who in my opinion would have the qualities necessary
>>> to take over the role.
>>>
>>
>> And I don't think people (at least, not many) are "calling for his
>> head".  My thought is that he should be encouraged to step down from all
>> his positions within GNU, FSF, gcc, and any other projects he is
>> involved with.  Retire now, while he can do so with dignity and without
>> harm to the free and open source software worlds.
> 
> David, I oppose your thought that he should be made to step down from ALL
> his positions.  That's the fundamental philosophy of China and Russia.
>  

Different opinions are fine.  Bringing national or international
politics into the discussion (presumably meant to be as an insult) is
not fine.  This is not a political discussion - please stop trying to
make it one.

>> It is only if it is left too late that people will be /forced/ to call
>> for his head.  You can be very sure that complaints about his behaviour
>> and attitudes will not diminish - they will grow, and the result will
>> not be good for RMS, GNU, gcc, users, developers, or anyone else except
>> the sellers of tabloid newspapers.  I would rather see him leave quietly
>> now with respect, than be hounded out later and his statues pulled down
>> - along with the careers and reputations of many who work with him.  (I
>> am not saying that such a destruction would be correct or appropriate -
>> I am saying it will happen in the end if the free software community is
>> not careful.)
>  
>> (I agree that there are few, if any, people who had the qualities of RMS
>> to do the job he did.  But IMHO that role is over - we don't need
>> someone to fill his shoes.)
>  
> I do not see that a person with the qualities of RMS would ask permission for
> the job.  I certainly don't! 
>  

We (the free software world) does not need a person with the qualities
of RMS any more - that is the point.  There should not be such a
position as "Chief GNUsance".

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