The socialist collective angry bullshit will go on rising from the dead. Richard Stallman executed a truly extraordinary feat that has never been accomplished by anyone before.
--------------------- Christopher Dimech General Administrator - Naiad Informatics - GNU Project (Geocomputation) - Geophysical Simulation - Geological Subsurface Mapping - Disaster Preparedness and Mitigation - Natural Resource Exploration and Production - Free Software Advocacy > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2021 at 2:27 PM > From: "Óscar Fuentes" <o...@wanadoo.es> > To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org > Subject: Re: Remove RMS from the GCC Steering Committee > > This was meant to be sent by private e-mail. I'm sorry it was sent to > the list by mistake, it was not my intention to stir this debate. > > I invite everyone to keep discussing this topic in a cold-headed way. > Specially, I'll like to see the base problem (lack of diversity) > addresed, instead of its hypothetical cause (and even more hypothetical > solution.) Let's see if, for once, instead of grand symbolic gestures > that solve nothing the problem is attacked with effective and sustained > measures. > > Sorry again for my intrusion on the list. > > Óscar Fuentes <o...@wanadoo.es> writes: > > > We on the West are on the brink of entering into a new cycle of social > > madness, fueled by Postmodern nonsense. > > > > Thank you for being brave enough to confront the self-righteous mob, and > > thank you for doing it with such equanimity and eloquence. > > > > Alexandre Oliva via Gcc <gcc@gcc.gnu.org> writes: > > > >> Nathan, > >> > >> I think you identify an important problem of gender imbalance in our > >> community. It is quite likely that finding ways to make our community > >> more welcoming to demographic groups that are currently less present > >> than in the distribution in the global population could reduce this > >> imbalance. > >> > >> However, your diagnosis as to the supposed cause of the problem makes no > >> sense to me. You said yourself that Stallman has not participated in > >> our community for decades. Much as I know, his very hands-off influence > >> in the SC has been mostly limited to licensing and strategic issues, > >> e.g. the GPLv3 and Runtime Exception relicensing, to ensure copyleft > >> defenses were in place to avoid abuse of such features as plugins. > >> > >> > >> It may be very convenient to paint a boogey-man and expel it because > >> that became fashionable. But sacrificing a goat or a lamb does not > >> expiate our own sins, and expelling someone who hasn't even been present > >> in the community can't be expected to make any real difference to that > >> matter; it would rather make us seem *less* welcoming and more > >> intolerant, and suggest other motivations for the move. > >> > >> > >> Let's be real and honest, when was the last time anyone in the GCC > >> community was called out for sexist behavior? When was there even > >> conversation about it, and about how sexist behavior is not acceptable > >> and not to be accepted among participants in the GCC community? What > >> was our latest collective action to promote e.g. gender equity within > >> the community? > >> > >> If we were to shift our collective blame over this very real and > >> undesirable problem to someone who has any direct authority over the > >> project, why not suggesting expelling e.g. the entire Steering Committee > >> for its evident failure to address the problem? (I don't think it's a > >> good idea, but that would be the first thing to try if we were to blame > >> "management"/"leadership" rather than ourselves for it) > >> > >> What could support any rational belief that having RMS one extra level > >> removed from our technical community would bring about anything > >> resembling a solution to the very undesirable and unjust gender > >> imbalance you've correctly identified? > >> > >> > >> The action you propose, besides the absence of effect in making our > >> community actually more welcoming, because he's already absent, would > >> send the opposite of a welcoming signal to people with controversial or > >> impopular opinions, to people at a certain spot in the neurodiversity > >> spectrum, and to many others who oppose this sort of mob rule. > >> > >> > >> How about we set out to take individual and collective actions that > >> actually address the problem *in* our community? We don't need anyone's > >> approval to call out sexist acts, nor to invite and train people with an > >> interest in compiler technology, nor to maintain a welcoming atmosphere. > >> > >> A regime of terror to maintain a false appearance of a welcoming > >> atmosphere won't get us there. > >> > >> If we undertake such actions, individually or collecetively, you might > >> be surprised (but I won't be) that he, even absent from the community, > >> would support these actions, which is the very opposite of the picture > >> you paint. > >> > >> Our taking effective action on our own would help show what the real > >> issues and intents are, and it would tell apart those who are really > >> interested in solving the gender imbalance and the social injustices > >> causing it, like you and me, from those who are abusing that flag as a > >> trojan horse to serve nefarious purposes, as suggested and illustrated > >> in https://ultralux97.medium.com/stallman-must-be-removed-a3061b09fb22 > >
